In this episode of Beyond The Microphone, host Adam Baruh sits down with Mike Cavaggioni, host of the Average Joe Finances podcast. They delve into the importance of patience in podcasting, the journey from passion to business, and how building a strong network and system can lead to podcast success. Mike shares his personal story of transitioning from a military career to becoming a real estate investor and podcaster, providing insights into overcoming challenges, growing a podcast audience, and leveraging relationships for business growth.

Show Notes:

[00:00:00] Introduction
– Welcome to Beyond The Microphone with host Adam Baruh.
– Pre-interview discussion on the critical role of patience in podcasting success.
– How podcasting becomes a business and the work behind the scenes.
– The phenomenon of podfade and how to overcome it.

[00:05:00] Introducing Mike Cavaggioni
– Mike Cavaggioni, host of Average Joe Finances, joins the show.
– Discussion on the podcast’s impressive listen score and ranking.

[00:06:00] Mike’s Journey Before Podcasting
– Mike’s background growing up in Long Island, New York, and his 17-year-long Navy career.
– His move to Hawaii and the decision to invest in real estate and achieve financial independence.
– The transition from blogging about his financial journey to starting a podcast.

[00:08:00] The Early Days of Podcasting
– Mike’s initial challenges with podcasting, including content preparation and consistency.
– The realization of the need for a system and outsourcing editing to save time and avoid burnout.

[00:10:00] Overcoming Podcasting Challenges
– Mike’s strategies for staying consistent and building momentum with his podcast.
– The importance of relationships with guests and listeners in growing a podcast.

[00:12:00] The Growth and Monetization of the Podcast
– Mike’s experience with reaching a plateau in downloads and how he pushed through.
– The impact of bringing on notable guests and focusing on marketing efforts.
– How Mike’s podcast became a source of income and connections for his other businesses.

[00:15:00] The Shift to Organic Conversations
– Adam and Mike discuss the value of organic, unscripted conversations over rigid formats.
– The benefits of not chasing perfection and learning through experimentation.

[00:17:00] Intentionality in Podcast Structure