BTM S1E4: Jaime Beebe
Adam Baruh: [00:00:00]
Welcome to Beyond the Microphone, a podcast about podcasters and the stories of how their shows came together grew, and what they’ve discovered along the way. I’m your host, Adam Baru, so I want to talk a little bit today before we get into our interview with our guest about, The idea of having authority, like, you know, feeling like, you know, if you’re just about to launch a new podcast, and this is something you’ve never done before, like, you know, do you need to be a subject matter expert?
Do you need to have authority? Do you need to be. A well regarded expert, you know, in the area that you want to have a podcast about. And I mean, my take on it is absolutely not. Like really there’s two things that you need, which is passion and curiosity, and those will be the driver of what you do because you know your audience will, if you bring [00:01:00] passion and curiosity.
Into your episodes. I mean, your audience is gonna get hooked and they’ll be, they’ll get interested in whatever you have to talk about. So, you know, whether, you know, for me, I do a lot of guest based interviews and really, so my episodes then become really just to highlight the guest and what they’re doing.
And, you know, they’re, they’re the subject matter experts in terms of what they’re doing, what their podcasts are about, how they get, how they got started. And, you know, for, so for anybody who’s, you know, Thinking about this and they’ve been thinking about it for a while, and they just don’t know that, you know, they feel that they have the authority.
Maybe there’s a little imposter syndrome that’s kind of in there as well. You know, try to set that aside and try to really just focus on the passion and curiosity, because that is gonna feed you along the way as well. Um, you know, most podcasters don’t get into this work thinking that we’re gonna make all this money.
We do it because we enjoy doing it. We like [00:02:00] doing it. We like listening to podcasts and we love being a part of this community. I mean, this is a fantastic community and ultimately why I created this particular podcast Beyond the Microphone is to get connected, uh, to people like our guests today here, Jamie Bebe, who you know, started a podcast and I’m super excited to talk about True Crime Podcasts because you know, whereas.
You know, my former podcast, the Change, which was around mental health, my only exposure to really the True Crime Podcast world is through only murders in the building, which I do highly recommend, very entertaining, very well done, So go check that out. But without further ado, let’s bring in Jamie, welcome to be on the microphone.
Super excited you’re here today. And you know, I’m just gonna launch right into it, like true crime, like how. Well, first of all, tell us a little bit about yourself, but also how did you get into True crime podcasting? Because that seems like, you know, talking about curiosity. I, I, I think [00:03:00] really that is probably one of the main drivers of, of the work that you’re doing.
So why don’t I turn it over to you and, uh, tell us a bit about yourself.
Jaimie Beebe: Cool. Um, yes, I have been interested in two crime since I can remember, since I was a kid. Um, in high school, I. Was watching like some talk show and this was like Oprah or something like that. Um, and they were saying like, oh, all these death row inmates, they’re really lonely, like people should write to them.
Or I’m in high school. I’m like, yeah, that’s a great idea. Um, you know, I don’t tell my parents so I start writing to like death row inmates, give them my address, no problem. Um, didn’t really think much of it. Uh, my parents got mad, but uh, I did continue writing. To a lot of, um, prisoners for a long time. I was just always so fascinated, I think in like, I don’t know, like how can people commit these, like heinous crimes, you know?
And are they still like cool people, even if they’ve kind of committed these heinous crimes and [00:04:00] some aren’t. Some aren’t, you know, I think it’s just depends on the crime.
Adam Baruh: Okay.
Jaimie Beebe: so yes, I’ve always kind of just been interested in, in crime. Um, I think cuz I haven’t committed very many, maybe like,
Adam Baruh: I like the idea of very many. I like that, that you had the caveat out there.
Jaimie Beebe: Well, you know, um, I haven’t committed any bad one.
Adam Baruh: Okay.
Jaimie Beebe: Really. Um, no, but, so I, you know, and I’m an avid podcast listener. I love podcasts and I listen to primarily, pretty much only true crime podcasts. Uh, it fascinates me and, um, I wanted to do one, and I called my business partner, my co-host, and I was like, Hey, I really wanna do a, a podcast.
Like all the good murders are taken, like everyone’s already doing. There’s. There’s like not enough murders out there anymore. Like every time we turn around I’m like, okay, like this murder has been covered 10 times by eight different podcasts. You know, it’s crazy. Um, so I mostly called him to complain that I would never be a [00:05:00] podcast host and he’s very logical and, and likes to think things through.
Whereas I am not really like that. I’m like, I’m gonna do this today. I’m gonna be this today. Um, but he was like, you know, no one’s doing a podcast about stalking. And I was like, I don’t know anything about stalking. That’s stupid. I’m not gonna do it. And I’m very dramatic, you know, I hang up on him and I’m like, my life is over.
I’ll never be a podcast host. But what always happens is, you know, I started to think about what he said and I was like, wait, so there’s this whole crime out there though? I don’t know anything about, like, that’s weird. Um, cuz I consider myself knowledgeable
Adam Baruh: it weird,
Jaimie Beebe: crimes. Well, yeah, I mean, you know, you don’t really hear much about it other than like, You know, stalker breaks into Kim Kardashian’s house.
I’m like, how important can stalking be? You know, like, how much of a thing is it? And I started researching and just went down this rabbit hole, like, holy crap. Like millions and millions of people are being stalked and it’s like horrific and traumatic and, and just awful. Um, so [00:06:00] you know what kind of came out like first as me just being like, ah, you know, blase about it.
Um, I was like, I wanna do something about this. You know, I wanna help people change the laws. Like the laws are, everything is screwed up in how you can possibly get justice. Um, if you are being stalked or where do you go? What do you do? You know, it’s, it’s, there’s a lot to unpack. Um, so being that I haven’t been stalked, um, we decided that the best way to get the stories out was, you know, to interview.
Vic, victim, survivors of stalkers, um, and see what was really going on here. So that’s kind of how we started. And um, you know, we’ve been doing it for a little over three years. Uh, we’ve done over 200 interviews, um, which is crazy because there’s a million more out there. Like there’s so many people that, that deal with this.
So that’s kind of how we got started.
Adam Baruh: So, yeah. And you know, you, you hear about like, you know, the [00:07:00] big name celebrities and like David Letterman comes to mind and I, I know there’s so many others. Um, so let’s start with, you mentioned like the laws, like where, where do those fall short? Like in your research, you know, and just doing this, you know, as long as you’ve done it, like, you know, where do you see the laws falling short in protecting people around?
Jaimie Beebe: I mean everywhere. Pretty much everywhere. Um, you know, it. The cops aren’t trained. Police officers and and authorities are not trained in dealing with scenarios like this. Like you call the police officer after a crime has been committed and they come and they find out who did it and clean it up, right?
I mean, that’s kind of the. Basics of what that is. But when you’re dealing with stalking, um, you know, you have to Peru, you have to prove this pattern. So at what point do you bring these police officers in, and how do police officers realize that you’re proving a pattern and you’re proving fear, [00:08:00] but not necessarily a crime that they’re used to dealing with has been committed, like, you know, no one’s been stabbed, nothing’s been taken.
So like what do the police officers
Adam Baruh: Right. I I guess they don’t, it’s not even a crime to totalk. Right.
Jaimie Beebe: I mean, it, it is, but you know, it has to happen more than once and you have to be afraid. Um, so
Adam Baruh: Well, can we stop real quick? Like what does that mean to stock though? Like what is that like just being followed? Like, I mean obviously where it goes to like some, your house being broken into.
Yeah. Like clearly, you know, that’s something that you can involve the law in, but like, I guess maybe like, let’s take a step back, like what does it even mean to be stalked?
Jaimie Beebe: Yeah, and a lot of people have a hard time categorizing that because especially now, there’s so many different ways to be stalked. Um, you know, it’s just, it’s any kind of a pattern of unwanted attention. So that’s pretty wide. So it can be somebody, you know, emailing you a hundred times a day or [00:09:00] five times a day, like, you know, it just really depends.
And is it this unwanted attention? Is it causing fear? Is it. Um, you know, that fine line between harassment and stalking and usually harassment turns into stalking anyway. Um, you know, who, who is this person? Is this stranger? Is it your ex? Or, you know, is this person following you physically? Are they, um, you know, creating fake social media accounts to follow you?
There’s so much in it, but I think like the, you know, the common denominator is like, are you scared? Is it causing a problem in your life in some way, you know,
Adam Baruh: I mean, I bet a lot of people just go about for a while before they even know that that’s even happening.
Jaimie Beebe: Yeah. Or before they know that that’s what it is, you know? Um, especially, I mean, and some people they don’t know they’re being stalked for a long time. Like if a stranger is stalking you, um, they might be real quiet about it for a [00:10:00] while, um, until you notice. And, you know, we have a lot going on in our lives.
It’s hard to notice these things. And it’s, it’s, um, it takes a while sometimes to like act upon it because, You know, time goes by quickly and you’re like, wait a minute. This person’s been doing this for a month, or, or five months, or, you know, 10 years. Like it’s, it’s kind of crazy.
Adam Baruh: Yeah. And. I only imagine that like, because everybody’s out there on the internet now, I mean, everything’s just so public. It’s hard to even like protect our children from just being out there like, you know, what do we do? Like what, do you have any thoughts or, you know, opinions about how to navigate this in a very public world that we live in nowadays?
Jaimie Beebe: Yeah. I mean, you know, and everyone kind of deals with things differently, but I, you know, I think number one is like, don’t live in the what ifs or in the fear, um, but take, you know, adequate precautions for life, [00:11:00] I guess. Like, um, you know, If you’re a girl and you’re, you know, you live alone or, or really if you’re anyone, you live alone or, you know, whatever it might be.
Maybe don’t post that. Maybe don’t post. Um, you know where you are at when you’re there. Um, I try to post things after I leave just in case. Um, and I’m kind of bad about it, but, but I’m also, you know, surrounded by people a lot, which is. Whatever. Um, you know, and, and also like with your comfort level, like what you’re putting out online, um, you know, some people put out every thought that they have during the day and every place they go and everything they do, and some people do a lot less.
So I think it’s like what you’re comfortable with and, you know, just that adequate form of safety for you. Um, if you’re gonna like geotech where you’re at and, and stuff like that. You know, if, if you’re. On the dating apps, like how much information do you give out? [00:12:00] Um, you know, even if I send, like, one thing that I’m really weird about is like if I send a photo to somebody, I screenshot it and then send it.
And that way they don’t have any information as to where the photo is. Cuz
Adam Baruh: Yeah. Like the metadata.
Jaimie Beebe: out where they were when they took it. Like everything. So, you know, like, just kind of depends. There’s a lot of ways to stay safe. It just depends on where your. Piece of that lies.
Adam Baruh: Yeah, where your comfort level and what you’re willing, you know, the time that you’re willing, how important it is to you to have that privacy. Let’s, let’s, um, rewind a little bit back to. You know, then just being interested as a high school student, you know, about crime and, and ultimately, you know, talking with your partner about, you know, there’s this kind of untapped area around true crime that, that may be a category, um, that you could speak about that would be unique and in stalker.
So how did you then go from, you know, tell us a little bit about that [00:13:00] concept phase, the d you know, Going from just a bunch of ideas and discussions and conversations to, you know, then putting those ideas on paper and, and forming a plan on how eventually you would launch a podcast around that.
Jaimie Beebe: Yeah. Um, that was an interesting phase for me because I, I don’t normally work with other people. I am like all me all the time. Um, but I didn’t think that this was something I could do by myself. Uh, I think. I just wasn’t prepared for it. I, and I didn’t know anything about podcasting at all. Um, so I prefer to go very quickly and jump right in.
And my business partner is the complete opposite. I mean, like, he is, you know, overthinking every sentence and like, wow, what about this, what about that? And I’m just like, oh my God, I can’t, that’s too much to think about it. I just wanna get things done. Um, but it works out really well because, you know, then we kind of found that middle [00:14:00] ground for us.
So, Those first few days, what I did, um, was I built like a whole deck. Like what are we gonna do? What are these, you know? And I did so much research, like I was like awake for days. I was like, oh, I need to find out more. Um, cuz I get really obsessed about things. So I did that and then, um, I went to a few different podcast companies and I was like, Hey, would this be interesting for you?
Like, do you guys wanna like some, you know, put this out, um, This thing that I haven’t built yet. Uh, but it worked, you know, and I did, um, team up with a company we did, me and my partner, we teamed up with, um, cast media and they’re great. Um, we. Had a lot of trial and error in the, in those first couple months.
Like we would record an episode and it would kind of suck. Um, cuz it would, maybe it was like us talking about it, or it was like, too, like salacious, like, oh, and then this happened, you know? And I, I wasn’t [00:15:00] looking for like this salacious, like, I really wanted to be more ethical, true crime reporting, um, rather than like hearing the, the bullet points of what happened, you know, like, I was, I really wanted to do more of like, let’s see what we can do to change these laws.
Like how can we help people? Cuz what I realized first and foremost is like if I was stalked, like I would’ve no idea what to do. Like who do you even call? Like where do you go? And, and everyone that I talked to, like my friends were like, I don’t know, I guess like you call 9 1 1. Cool. Like at what point, like when someone sends you flowers, like, hi, it’s 9 1 1.
Yeah, this dude sent me flowers. Great. You know, they’re, they’re not gonna, it’s what do you do? Um, so I kind of really wanted to focus on that. And then we started finding, reaching out to people who are advocates in the community and inviting them to come on the show and talk to us and tell us their story.
But then also like how, like what can you do if you’re like, you know, that kind of thing. Uh, and that’s kind of [00:16:00] how it started taking off was. We started finding all these people that have been stalked and like how they dealt with it on a personal level, on a professional level. Um, a lot of people that we talk to are still being stalked, so they’re just dealing with it because stockers don’t stop.
Um, usually unless they go to jail or they’re dead, or if they find someone new, um, and even if they find someone new, they oftentimes come back. So it’s kind of like a lifelong thing for a lot of people.
Adam Baruh: so your business partner that you’re speaking of, this is your co-host, uh, Jake Depula.
Jaimie Beebe: Yep.
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Adam Baruh: in working together, how do you guys kind of tackle whichever pieces in terms of not just the interviews themselves, um, but you know, all the ins and outs of running a podcast, the [00:19:00] marketing, the guest research, the, you know, you name it.
Jaimie Beebe: Yeah, I mean we luckily, you know, I’m better at some things that he’s not and he’s better at some things that I’m not. Um, you know, I have a background in production as a casting director, so I’m pretty good at finding people, um, whether they wanna be found or not. No. Um, I’m pretty good at finding people and so it wasn’t easy to start finding people that are being or have been stalked.
People don’t wanna talk about it. Um, it’s not, it’s, it’s kind of like domestic violence and there’s a lot of domestic violence in stalking, so it was hard to find people that wanna talk about it. So I really started focusing on that. Um, so I kind of do that aspect of it. I do a lot of the editing. Um, a lot of the writing, the writing stuff.
Um, Jake is really good at, um, like graphic arts and things like that, so he makes, you know, the, the Instagram posts and, and things like that. [00:20:00] So we just kind of divvy it up and, you know, whoever has more time when, I guess, but. Uh, we try to work ahead of schedule as much as possible so that there’s less, um, or no stress and, and, you know, involved in that and,
Adam Baruh: so, yeah, you’re talking about like banking episodes, so recording a number of them so that you’re kind
Jaimie Beebe: Yeah, when we can. I mean, it’s, it’s. Every single episode is an interview. Uh, so we have to kind of be open scheduled and, you know, I work, we both work from home. Um, you know, so that’s good. So we do have open schedules, um, because we never know if we’re talking to somebody in another country or across the world or whatever, what time they’re available, if you know, if they’re not, you know, if they are working and.
Their hours. And so we’re kind of open on that. Um, so we schedule them whenever other people can. And then, you know, I take that time and I [00:21:00] edit, um, we send it off. We’re actually with Podcast One now. They’re amazing and we send it off to Podcast one, they do the final edits. Um, you know, add, put the sponsors in and takes a little time.
Adam Baruh: It, it definitely takes a lot of time. Um, and do you guys both have, you know, are you guys monetized in your podcast or do you have other jobs that you’re
Jaimie Beebe: we are. Yeah. Yeah. We are monetized. Um, luckily, um, we, we pretty much have been from early on, um, when we were with cast media, um, they really helped us out with that. Um, You know, I think our, the best way that we were able to create the awareness and get people going on this, um, was one because no one else was doing it.
But then also we advertised a lot on other podcasts, other true crime podcasts, um, cuz
Adam Baruh: Now also, is that something you paid for or, or how did you kind of
Jaimie Beebe: we did, we did. Um, [00:22:00] we, some of ’em were paid and some of them we just, um, like we swap, we do like promo swap. Apps, which we still do all the time. Um, you know, cause my theory is like I have, I have a decent like, following on Instagram. I don’t think any of my Instagram followers listen to my podcast. Um, and I’ve noticed like there’s not a correlation like that.
I mean, most of my Instagram followers are like, oh, let’s see this chicken and bikini. You know, like it’s a whole different world out there. Um, but podcast listeners listen to podcasts. So like, where are you going to find more podcast listeners? With another podcasts. Um, so that’s why, like, and it’s weird because it, it’s not like, I don’t, there’s not really a competition based thing between podcasts.
Like I listen to all of them. Like there’s not enough hours in the day for how many podcasts I listen to. Um, so it’s not like I’m gonna listen to this one and not that one. You know what I mean? So I think it’s kind of a cool. Community to be [00:23:00] in, in that respect, because we’re all like, oh yeah, like let’s swap.
Like, oh, you have a new podcast coming out. Cool. Let me talk about it on my, on my show, you know, because my listeners are probably gonna wanna hear that.
Adam Baruh: Yeah,
Jaimie Beebe: it’s cool.
Adam Baruh: I’ve said the same thing, um, with a number of people that, um, you know, cuz I, I have a regular. Other job too. And it’s, um, I lead this IT consulting company and it’s just a different, you know, you work with people that are in a very competitive landscape. Um, but this podcasting community, it’s not that like, um, you know, there’s, it, it’s not like you have this finite amount of ears that you’re trying to, you know, Expose your, your podcast to.
So it’s great. And I find podcasters to be very collaborative and, and always open to sharing. So, you know, for those of you that are, that are listening and looking for tips, um, guest. Spotting, you know, going on other podcasts, trailer swaps, promo swaps, episode, guest spot swaps. You know, all of those are [00:24:00] really great and for the most part are free ways to get yourself exposed to new audiences.
So highly recommend it to do that and make connections and meet people. Um, just get out there and start talking to people. Um, much like I’m doing with you here today, Jamie. So, um,
Jaimie Beebe: are doing podcasts cuz they just. Want to, you know, I think everyone is just doing it cuz they want to. It’s forcing anyone to do podcasts, I hope. Um, and so, but I think like, it’s that love of like, oh, I wanna do this. And so that collaboration is just there. It’s, it’s so fun.
Adam Baruh: Yeah, it’s like it’s a bonus because, you know, just doing this and connecting with other. People. And um, I mean yesterday I had an interview with somebody and it got very emotional. I mean, she was like getting very emotional and it’s like this space that we create these conversations, like, you know, you always have to remember like, you know, for a lot of people that are in this space, you know, a lot of these stories are coming out of painful [00:25:00] experiences or you know, just.
Like your story, really just want, you know, very much outta curiosity, just, but all coming from a place of creativity and connection and, uh, you know, in a world where, you know, most people work from home and are, you know, you work for companies and you work remote, like, you know, we, I feel like. We need connections more.
And I think that podcasting really is a, you know, even though like you and I are connecting here face-to-face, um, not in person but face-to-face, but even the act of listening to a podcast, I think is a connection and it does feed something within us just listening. It’s like we’re part of an audience.
Like we’re, you know, this one story, it always, this one podcast speaker. I think it was on the Moth. His name is Ray Christian and he talked about his experience with P T S D and I mean, just as a listener going through [00:26:00] his story and how he. He’s a fantastic storyteller, but how he related his story, I mean, you can’t help but get moved.
And that’s the beauty of podcasting and why I think it’s just so relevant in today’s world is because, you know, in a, in a world that makes it harder for us to, to get those connections, podcasting is, is a way for us to still have that and to. You know, get that emotional, you know, get ourselves out of our normal emotional comfort zone to feel something different, something what somebody else went through, you know?
Jaimie Beebe: Totally. And you know, and you kinda, you get into that world, you know, like there’s podcasts I listen to where like, I’m like, oh, I better tune in. Like I need to find out what happened to their dog. Like, it’s nothing about their dog, but I know that they’re gonna be like, oh yeah, my dog was sick. And then I just need to know if their dog is better.
But also hear the trick crime story that they’re gonna tell, you know? So you do kind of get to know people. It’s, it’s very much like, um, you know, it’s, it’s a different part of [00:27:00] social media I think.
Adam Baruh: Yeah. Well, I want to stick with the monetization a little bit because you’re, what you guys have been able to achieve is very unique, but a lot of people, when they get into podcasting, they think that’s gonna be. The recipe for them. Um, but it’s, it’s, you know, it’s very difficult to get sponsorship, very difficult to, to make money doing this work that we do.
So, you know, how do you think you guys were able to achieve that sponsorship type of monetization and, you know, in your experience, like, does it come down to download numbers? Like where, what, what are sponsors looking for? Um, that you guys have been able to kind of like, focus in on and, and keep, you know, keep that money coming in.
Jaimie Beebe: Yeah, I mean, I think for us, it, and for anyone, it’s kind of the perfect storm. Um, we were doing something that, that wasn’t out there, which is cool. Um, we were lucky enough to team up with [00:28:00] the company that, cause I didn’t even, honestly, when I started, I’m not sure I realized that you could really make money and get sponsors on a podcast.
I just wanted to do it. Um, And so, you know, they, they were able to help us a lot with the whole monetization thing of things. Um, but yeah, it’s download numbers. It’s, it’s, to start off, you need the right amount of subscribers, download numbers, all that kind of stuff. Um, and then in order to keep sponsors, not only that, like people have to click on things and like use that little, um, You know, what, 10% off, keep on that we talk about, or whatever it is.
Like it has to make sense for the sponsors too. Um, you know, they might do a trial thing where, you know, we’re doing an ad for something and if no one’s reaching out and, and getting that and purchasing it from, [00:29:00] um, like using our coupon or whatever, uh, they aren’t gonna continue. Um, you know, it’s a little bit of a.
Uh, thing there that, you know, we don’t really have a lot of control over. Um, but I do, you know, we’re with Podcast one now and they do all of our monetization for us, and I think that they do a great job with trying to find. You know, sponsors that are, that our listeners would be interested in. And I think that we have kind of an interesting group of listeners.
We, it’s a lot of people who’ve been through trauma, a lot of survivors, a lot of people who are currently being stalked, so like our listeners are, and then we have like a lot of true crime people that like wanna hear about it and stuff like that. But I, our listeners are like, Great. Like they’re, they’ve been with us since day one.
They start over at the first episode. Like they’re really awesome. Um, and I think that podcast one has, you know, honed in on that for us, luckily. And, and so, um, I think our sponsors are, are happy
Adam Baruh: That’s cool. [00:30:00] And, um, how do you stay engaged and connected with your audience? Like, do you guys do email lists and, and you know, Patreon, like, do you
Jaimie Beebe: media. Yeah, on social media a lot. Um, and then also we have a Patreon, um, that we don’t use too much. Uh, I mean a, a lot, little, I guess, I don’t know. Um, but we have like Instagram, TikTok, uh, things like that. And then, Um, you know, during our show we’re, we are a little bit different where we don’t have a lot of, like, as hosts, we don’t talk a lot about ourselves really at all.
Um, and so that is different than, than a lot of people. Um, so I think that when people want to know more about us, like we do guests on a lot of other podcasts, um, and, you know, social media and stuff like that. So that’s kind of how we interact more cause. That’s really the only way for us, um, because our podcast [00:31:00] is a little bit, uh, it’s, it’s not, we’re not making jokes.
There’s no jokes on there, there’s no fun times, you know? Um, and it’s, and we don’t even talk that much to be honest. It’s more of a platform for, um, the people that we’re interviewing so that they can get their story out and hopefully help others.
Adam Baruh: Yeah. Okay. So you’ve got a new podcast you’re working on called The Last Trip, recreating someone’s last day on vacation where they subsequently went missing or were murdered. So how did the concept for that show come together? Kind of where are you at in, in getting that launched?
Jaimie Beebe: Yeah, so that I am really excited about. I travel a lot by myself. Like I try to hit a new country every month, like I’m super into traveling. I love it so much. Um, and I like solo travel, which is kind of crazy for like, you know, I’m five three and blonde. Like, I stick out, you know, especially
Adam Baruh: wife is, same thing. My wife’s gone to some really sketchy places and, and probably looks the
Jaimie Beebe: Oh yeah. Yeah. Um, I’ve definitely gone to some sketchy places, like my [00:32:00] parents. My parents are like, no, but, um, but I think that there’s a great, you know, I think it’s a great way to travel. I don’t, I don’t not gonna wait around for somebody. Um, so, but what I usually do, or I notice what I would start doing is like, um, I like to see weird stuff.
I usually go to cemeteries when I travel and like, Whatever, you know. So I started looking up like what, um, you know, other vacationers went missing or got murdered while they were in the places I wanted to go to. And, um, I was like, wow, I should do a podcast about this cuz I’m super interested. Like, this is the first thing I look up when I book a plane ticket, you know?
Um, not like the cool sight seeing stuff, but like, did anyone get murdered here? Just, I
Adam Baruh: How do you even look? Like, where do you even look that stuff up? Just Google
Jaimie Beebe: Oh, I just, you know, news Google. I mean the internet is such a wild West place still. It’s great. Um, so yeah, so I started, um, doing that kind of research for fun and I was like, if I’m doing this for fun, I might as well see if [00:33:00] anyone else wants to hear it.
Um, so I’ve got about, I’m about 10, I have about 10 episodes recorded right now, but I have not, um, put it out yet because. I am talking with a couple different production companies to see if this is more something that we could do, like streaming network tv, um, or if, if I wanna leave it as a podcast, um, ideally both at the same time would be cool.
Um, in like a little bit of different formats. But yeah, so we’ll see. And then, you know, depending on how that goes, I, I’ll be releasing the podcast. Either way, cuz I’ve already recorded like 10 episodes. Um, but it’s just fascinating to me, like so many people go missing or get murdered on vacation. Like that’s where I’m most aware, you know?
Adam Baruh: That’s scary to think
Jaimie Beebe: but a lot of people aren’t and, and maybe I’m not as aware as I think I, I, I think I am now because I research it so thoroughly. But [00:34:00] it’s very interesting.
Adam Baruh: Okay, cool. So yeah, the new podcast and then even like you said, like kind of maybe it might be something beyond just a podcast. So where, you know, what do you see for yourself? What, you know, what are some, you know, if you kind of think about maybe the next couple of years, like, um, where do you see yourself going with the type of work that you want to do?
Jaimie Beebe: I, um, I don’t know. You know, it’s hard to say. I am very, like, I’ve probably had every. Type of job you can imagine and career and everything else. Um, my main goal, I think since like high school has always been to not have to go into an office and make enough money to travel by not going into an office.
Um, that’s just, and it’s always just been my goal. You know, my, my parents, uh, they have kind of a hard time understanding that I don’t go anywhere to work. Even though like there’s movies out there that they can watch and my name is on it cause I cast the movie, but they’re just like, you should get a job.
Like guys,
Adam Baruh: Parents come [00:35:00] on.
Jaimie Beebe: like I own a house in Hollywood. I’m doing okay. Um, but you know, they’re still like, every once in a while they’re like, you know, the gas station by our house is hiring. You could work full-time. guys, like I, I won’t do that. But um, even if I was broke, I can’t see myself moving back to my hometown working full-time in a gas station.
Adam Baruh: your hometown, by the way? Huh? Where is your hometown? Where are you from?
Jaimie Beebe: Um, I grew up in Storm Lake, Iowa. My parents actually live in Washburn, Wisconsin now, which is like way north. It’s, I think there’s still snow. Um, it’s crazy,
Adam Baruh: Well here in Southern California, we’re not, I don’t know. It feels like winter still.
Jaimie Beebe: it’s at, well, I’m in, I’m in LA now, and I’m just like, like, there’s no sunlight. It’s cold.
Adam Baruh: in San Diego, so it’s, yeah, we’ve been kind of hit with the same weather. Um.
Jaimie Beebe: It’s nuts.
Adam Baruh: So lastly, the, the last question is, um, you know, where can people find out more about you? Where can, you mentioned Instagram? Um, like what, what’s [00:36:00] the best way people can kind of, um, you know, check out what you’re doing?
Obviously strictly, um, stalking is, you can check that out anywhere I’m imagining on, you know, anywhere podcast can be found. But yeah. Where can people connect with you?
Jaimie Beebe: Yeah. Um, my personal Instagram is Feather Girl 77. It’s a lot of my travels, my day to day. It’s a lot of pictures of me. Um, that’s about it. Uh, me and my dog. I’m single, so it’s me and my dog. Um, and I travel a lot, so it’s me and my dog traveling. Uh, I also own a bikini company, so there’s a lot of pictures of that, um, in there.
Um, my bikini company is the boyfriend Bikini, so that’s also on Instagram. You need to hold me there, uh, at the Boyfriend Bikini. Um, the podcast is at strictly stalking pod, so you can reach out on that Instagram. Um, that’s a, that’s anywhere you can Google me. I’m around, I’m pretty easy to find.
Adam Baruh: All right. Well, hey, listen, [00:37:00] thank you so much for being here today. It’s been fascinating to just hear about this, you know, you know, for me personally, just a side of podcasting that I, I haven’t really explored all that much. Definitely curious and interested, but just haven’t really done it. So it’s, it’s really fascinating to me to hear people that are just curious about, you know, this type of aspect of living, right?
There are people that get stalked, you know, stuff happens. Whether you’re on vacation or not. And so, you know, this has just been fascinating to listen to. So thank you so much for your time today.
Jaimie Beebe: Thank you. It was great being here.
Adam Baruh: Yeah, thank you. Jamie Bebe grew up in the Midwest making her way out to Los Angeles to pursue a career in production, working as a film and TV casting director.
Recently, she developed producers and co-hosts the Popular True Crime Podcast. Strictly stalking. Along with her co-host, she interviews survivors of stalkers, giving them a platform to create awareness about an often under-reported crime. She’s [00:38:00] about to launch her new podcast, the Last Trip, recreating someone’s last day in paradise, covering, murdered and missing people from their vacations.
Her latest adventure is the boyfriend Bikini, a bikini company that she designed to help all women feel confident and level up while looking their best on the beach. Go check out Jamie’s podcast, strictly stalking, wherever you listen to podcasts, or follow her on Instagram at Feather Girl. 77 Beyond. The Microphone is sponsored by podcast.
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