HIMIT S3E16 Richard Martini #5
[00:00:00] here’s what’s common in the data, and we’ll get to Jesus in a minute, but here’s what’s common in the data is that people report that once we cross over, We have a life review, and if you’re a person who’s been a really good person and helped a lot of people, your life review is going to be a very
Richard Martini: pleasant experience. But if you’re somebody who’s been angry and jealous and, and created cause, caused mayhem to people’s lives, you will experience all this trauma that you caused other people
firsthand. You experience it yourself.
Hello and welcome to our episode of How I Made It Through. We have our returning guest Richard Martini and I’m so thrilled you are here. We were just talking and talking and talking. I was worried we’d have nothing to talk about but I don’t think that is even a possibility. Welcome back.
Richard Martini: Thank you so much, Kristen. It’s always fun to talk [00:01:00] to you. It’s always fun to hear your voice. And it does always feel like we’re just picking up where we were, where we left off, you know, 10 minutes ago or two minutes ago. uh, you know, how are you, What’s going on with you and your neck of the
Kristin Taylor: what’s going on
with me and my neck of the woods? I’m doing well. I’m doing the well. I’m doing the well. I’m not doing the well but I’m doing well. Um, I’m Here I am talking to this very prolific author, but I’m writing a book of literary fiction that is inspired by events in my life. And I’m feeling very, very hopeful.
It’s taking a ton of time, but it’s been pretty transformative, just the process of writing. And I hope that it one day gets published and one day helps people in their own healing journey.
Richard Martini: That’s really fabulous. I mean, I’m, and I must add. You know, the thing of the traditional world of publishing, as we know, it seems to have gone out the window. [00:02:00] is a good thing and a bad thing. It’s a good thing for authors
because they can find their
You don’t really, as I
I mean, you know, just for the listeners out there who are thinking about writing their own book or doing their own thing.
I mean, I had finished. I’ve been represented by an agent and a manager for most of my
career. And when I finished my first book, Flipside, I took it to
Kristin Taylor: Mm hmm.
Richard Martini: he said, well, let’s send it around. I’ll get it to all the majors and he got it to all the majors and all the majors had the same thing, which was who is rich martini and why?
How do we get him on Oprah? That was how long ago that was. Or how do we get, you know, him on a talk show? Because who is he? He’s not a doctor. He’s not somebody who’s, you know, famous from that field or
or even somebody like had a near death experience. You have a dramatic event and then you can talk about it.
No, I was just an annoying gadfly with a [00:03:00] camera asking people questions. So, uh, I thought, you know what? I, I bet I could probably put this out into the world and see what would happen. And maybe people will find it. That’s what I thought. So I did that. Self published. This was before Amazon was doing
It was a
Kristin Taylor: Oh
Richard Martini: called, um, Some Space. I forget what it was. And, um, I did a book talk, and I think this is key to your audience, which is if once you finish your book, see, Kristen, you can go on and talk about it, and you can have people interview you about it, and you already know how to do that. So, but, what I did was I took a camera to a coffee shop in Santa Monica, and filmed myself talking about my book with the coffee shop owner.
Very nice guy, who sat, you know, sat me down and we had this conversation for an hour about, And then I posted it online. Now, I want to say ten people were in the [00:04:00] coffee shop. Ten. I put posters up. Ten. Weirdly enough, about, like, three of them were friends of mine from, like, high school and grade school, and they just happened to be in town.
They happened to all show up, and they were different parts of my life. And then I put it online, and I think maybe a hundred people? Maybe a couple hundred people saw it. You know, watched it. But out of that, somebody reached out to me and said, Hey, I think you should come and talk to our group, IONS, International Association of Near Death Studies, because this seems to be in that ballpark.
Maybe you want to show the movie? I was like, great! Um, and so then they flew me out to Virginia Beach, it’s now a couple of months later, and I do a talk in the, Edgar Cayce’s hometown, uh, and also over at his place. And in the audience, somebody comes up to me and says, you know, this is really unusual material and you are kind of a goofy guy.
I think you’d be really good on coast to [00:05:00] coast
And I said, what’s that? And he said, Oh, I’m going to write the producer a letter. And I thought, Oh, isn’t that sweet? You know, he’s going to write the letter, the head of the studio letter. You should see. Anyway, I get a call from the producer over it.
And he says, I got this letter and they said, you know, when do you want, when should you be on? And so I was on,
this is like three months later. Now I’m on coast to
coast with George
Kristin Taylor: big
Richard Martini: I didn’t know I’d never heard of the show, but I listened to it and I realized what a good interviewer he is. He makes it feel like he’s read everything
you’ve ever written.
Kristin Taylor: Ha ha
Richard Martini: uh, the book was number one
at Kindle. So. I thought, Oh my gosh, all right. That’s the formula. I accidentally stumbled
Kristin Taylor: Stumbled
Richard Martini: So, you know, book talk, get it out there into the world. So that is important. You’re already halfway there. You already have an audience. You have a built in [00:06:00] audience for your book.
So certainly send it around to all of the prolific publishers
that do that sort of thing because they’ll organize it
Kristin Taylor: And what’s good is that it’s literary
fiction. So I don’t, if it were memoir or non fiction, narrative non fiction, I would have to be a somebody. Right? A known entity. I don’t have to be a known entity. When it’s fiction, yours is not fiction. So you need to be more of an expert. You need to be more of an expert.
I can be just a debut author and if it’s well written and a compelling story, I figure I’ve got as much of a shot as anyone else.
Richard Martini: Absolutely. There’s that. But at the same time, I just want you to have that plan B. And the plan
B is you can self publish it through Kindle, Amazon. Now it’s all one stop shop. And you can put it together and have your hardcover and your paperback out and your Audible out, which you should do, of course, uh, within a few months.[00:07:00]
And ultimately, once you push publish,
your fan base, which you
Kristin Taylor: which is massive,
Richard Martini: It’s huge.
I know. It should
be. It should be
Kristin Taylor: should be.
It should be. So let’s thank you for that. Thank you for that. That’s very much in my mind. There needs to be a strategy. So you brought up before we were, um, recording, you brought up after death and oh, by the way, if people are listening to this on my YouTube channel. I need your help spreading the word.
So please subscribe to the channel, like the episode, and it really helps the channel so that more people can get wind of these very fascinating stories. So you were talking about the movie After Death and the intersection with your work and some of your experiences and insights. So I’m just going to hand it over to you.
Richard Martini: Very true. Thank you. I, uh, got an email from an old friend of mine who said, Hey, there’s this premier, uh, in Hollywood at the Grove Theater in an hour. [00:08:00] Do you think you can make it there, ? And I thought, what, what is this? And then he sent me a link to the film after death. And I thought, yeah, I should go. And sure enough, I got there and I got to meet the director and the producer and, uh, somebody whose book is in there, is in the, um, the film.
But on the way over, I was listening to the trailer for the film. And it’s basically near death experiences brought to life through a very terrific reenactment process. So they reenact the near death experience. They have interviews with the people who went through them. Basically, the filmmaker, um, Stephen Gray had his brother in law had passed away seven years earlier and was wondering, like, well, what happened to him?
And then he read about this near death experience and he made a short film about it. And then he showed that to different people. He showed it to these people as producers in Canada, then took it to Angel. com, the very successful studio that made the [00:09:00] film this past summer, The Sound of Freedom. Um, and you know, they’re breaking the model of how films get distributed.
But anyway, the, so the people who belong to angel. com voted his, this short film as the film they wanted to do next. So he had a budget. He went out and he made, he did these reenactments, et cetera, et cetera. But in the trailer, I’m driving over to the premier and I hear him say a voice, say 23%. of near death experiences have a hellish experience.
But, no. Having researched this for quite a bit and knowing Dr. Grayson, who wrote the handbook of near death studies, he also wrote the book after,
a preeminent guy, they named the near death scale after him. He was friends with and worked with Dr. Moody, who invented the term near death experience. I knew that it, it’s one to three percent have a hellish experience.
That being said, Uh, you [00:10:00] know, that’s a dark or a hellish experience, but in, in my research, I’ve had 200 people recall previous lifetimes and in two out of 200 people had a memory of having a hellish experience after the death that they can recall. So suddenly they’re in a dark sulfur place or they see scary looking people, but when the hypnotherapist asks them, so why are we here?
Simple question. They, it would dissolve. The whole hellish experience just dissipated because they realized It was a fear based construct. Something they had created out of what they thought was going to happen. You see? So in near death studies, they don’t ask questions like that. Why are we here? They just report and I can tell you because I had to look it up and do a little more research, you know, just to say wait a minute.
How could this be so wrong? As it turns out, When they first started doing this, uh, data in the [00:11:00] 1970s, uh, Dr. Moody, et cetera, et cetera, there were no cases of hellish experiences. Zero. And then they discovered that some people had initially a hellish experience and then it transformed into a beautiful experience, or angelic experience.
Almost like the way Dante’s poem goes, you know, it starts in Inferno and works its way up. That’s what people were reporting. And so that ultimately though, the data, and it’s across the board, it’s one to three percent. Okay. Why bring it up? Mainly because I knew that in our, uh, we have a forum over at Quora called Hacking the Afterlife.
A lot of people like to weigh in. I knew I would be hearing about it from people who want to believe that hell exists. And I, there’s no other way to put it because it just doesn’t exist in the data and the research and the footage. And the reports. Yes, people do, who’ve had a near death experience, might have a [00:12:00] hellish experience, but then if you revisit it, as I’ve been doing with people, through hypnotherapy, uh, meditation, they can see
why it happened.
Kristin Taylor: What I was just going to say, and I don’t want to cut you off, so, um, finish and then I’ll, then I’ll tell you what I was going to
Richard Martini: Well, I was going to say, you know, the logical thing, there’s a couple of logical things here. No two hellish experiences
match. When somebody says they see people standing around with horns, you have to think about that for a second because horns are matted hair and cartilage. So there’s nothing inherent evil about having a horn on the top of your head, other than that’s something that people have, like, mythologically used forever.
Hooves, nothing evil about hooves or even red eyes, I’m just saying. It’s we extrapolate
that there’s something dark
Kristin Taylor: Well, it’s the association. It’s this association to it. And so I encourage people if they [00:13:00] haven’t go to NDE radio It’s with Lee Whitting who is associated with ions and he has he has so many episodes But he has an episode devoted to this topic why? negative, dark, near death experiences, hellish near death experiences.
And so it’s really fascinating. He’s quite brilliant. But what I have listened to when I listen to hellish near death experiences, it is my takeaways is that it’s people. It’s of their own making, to some extent, because of their fear or what they expect to see. Um, not all, they would say, no, no, no, it’s not what I expect to see, because I’m thinking this one woman, like, I’ve been such a good person, why would this happen?
But the moment they recognize that they have a sense of agency, if they ask for a benevolent being, whether it’s Jesus, which is very germane to, to your work, or any other positive association, it’s like they’re scooped out of that horrible scenario. [00:14:00] And place back on the trajectory towards something positive and angelic. Are you…
Richard Martini: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. But, but I would also say, in this thing of talking about it being a mental construct, that doesn’t mean that people who were bad don’t experiencing something hellish. And the reason I say that is because, and look, it really has to do with the data. How many people have you
talked to who have had a bad experience?
So, here’s what’s common in the data, and we’ll get to Jesus in a minute, but here’s what’s common in the data is that people report that once we cross over, We have a life review, and if you’re a person who’s been a really good person and helped a lot of people, your life review is going to be a very
pleasant experience. But if you’re somebody who’s been angry and jealous and, and created cause, caused mayhem to people’s lives, you will experience all this trauma that you caused other people
firsthand. [00:15:00] You experience it yourself. Now. A lot of times in my work, I get people, you know, my work, what am I doing, I’m filming people under hypnosis, I’m filming mediums who work with law enforcement talking about direct access to people on the other side, and I’m doing these guided meditations, Divine Counsels in the Afterlife is my book that talks about that.
Oh, I’m going to hold
it up. Here we go.
Kristin Taylor: is! Take the sticky
off of it,
Richard Martini: And
Kristin Taylor: it,
Richard Martini: so, you know, this is 20 scientists, a Harvard neuroscientist, priests, doctors, all doing a guided meditation where within 15, 20 minutes, they were able to talk to people off planet, including their
counsels, to ask questions to them directly, like, what’s my journey been?
And these were all people who didn’t know you could do that. But they all ended up doing it. But [00:16:00] anyway, so you also, we talked about this off air, when we started, this podcast that I have, Hacking the Afterlife, where Jennifer Schaffer, medium
of law enforcement, and I, for Eight years!
every week, yeah it’s crazy, every week we get together and we talk to people on the other side.
That resulted in four books, there’s Backstage Past the 3, and then, uh, Tuning into the Afterlife. Um, and it’s basically me asking Jennifer to talk to people, or Jennifer and I talking, and then people show up and want to have a conversation with us. That’s the premise. But the podcast has been on for two years.
The reason I bring it up is two weeks ago, and Jesus has shown up on the podcast a few times. And I, you know, I know that I say that lightly, but it’s like somebody is on, we’re talking to somebody and they’re saying, well, I see Jesus here and then we go on from there. But in this case, two [00:17:00] weeks ago, one of the most evil people who’s ever existed on the planet showed up.
And when people talk to me, you know, they’ll say to me, you know, could you interview Stalin or Hitler or? You know, could you talk to these people? And I always say, look, if I didn’t want to spend five minutes with them on, while they were on the planet, why would I want to talk to them on the other side?
They’re just not people I’m interested in. But in this case, we were having a conversation, three scientists showed up. I’ll tell you their names were Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, and Nikola Tesla. All people we’d spoken to
Kristin Taylor: Okay.
Richard Martini: And Genghis Khan. Most people don’t know that Genghis Khan, do
you have any idea how many deaths he was responsible for?
Kristin Taylor: I would imagine it’s monumental, like in the thousands.
Richard Martini: 40 million.
So it’s more than all the deaths in World [00:18:00] War I and
Kristin Taylor: Oh my
Richard Martini: and Stalin combined. Now, so he shows up. And Jennifer says it like, you know, these three people
here, and I’m, he’s saying his name is Genghis Khan. She
doesn’t know who that is.
Kristin Taylor: Oh, she didn’t know who he was. I know who
Richard Martini: I mean, she’d heard his name, but she didn’t have any idea why.
And so I just want to point this out, because then he launched into, because I ask him the same questions I ask everybody, what was your experience like? And, and she said, he’s showing me, uh, hell creatures from Buddhism. And that was his experience. He went to hell. Okay, now, for a, for a, you know, practicing religious person out there, they’d be like, see,
Kristin Taylor: Uh huh. Exactly.
Richard Martini: you know, let’s just do a little bit of logic here. It’s not a place that’s a tourist destination. It’s not like you get to go there and then cut out, right? It’s not like you go and come back. And I said, please clarify
what you’re saying. And what he described, and [00:19:00] what Jennifer didn’t know, was that The Dalai Lama was named by the grandson of Genghis
Khan, Kublai Khan, named
Kristin Taylor: didn’t know that.
Richard Martini: Ocean of Wisdom.
Well, the Mongolian people are very religious, and they’re
Kristin Taylor: Uh huh.
Richard Martini: Not with Genghis Khan, clearly. But, at the same time, you have to allow, Genghis Khan was a master warrior. Got all these people together, and they went around and they killed… But here’s what he said. He said towards the end of his life, he couldn’t sleep.
So it was like a constant thing of just terror, of paranoia, of fear. And then when he crossed over, he was met by all the people he had slaughtered.
Kristin Taylor: Forty million, you said?
Richard Martini: Well, yeah, he, he just said I was met by everybody that I killed. Of course, you know, his warriors killed
all 40 million people. I don’t know how many hundreds of
Kristin Taylor: But he was responsible for [00:20:00] genocide because
Richard Martini: for 40 million. Correct. But he was saying, and he had this hellish experience of being, and so I, when, if I may call that he had his life review where he got to see all the trauma that, and experience it
firsthand that he had caused. But since then, that was in 1277, since then he’s reincarnated
times. And I said, as what? He said, well, I came back as a monk for a while because I was trying to reconcile
I had done with a different life of service. And then he said, and then I had lifetimes where everything that I did to other people happened to me. So I experienced that. It’s almost like when you think of a playwright who’s trying to make up all the different plays they’re going to create and they go over every possible ramification.
Anyway, that’s a long way. I apologize. But it’s a long way to get to the sentence where Genghis Khan came through to [00:21:00] talk about how he suffered over many lifetimes for the trauma that he had caused other
people. Um, and, you know, he’s a perfect example of somebody who represented in his era the embodiment of evil.
It doesn’t get any darker than him, uh, in terms of people who knew him. However, there’s another weird fact, which is that one fourth of all Asians are related to him. The con blood is in one out of every four Asians.
Kristin Taylor: Okay.
Richard Martini: and, and he jokingly said, I hope the strong part and not the weak part, meaning, you know, the strength that he
had, like, you know, that get carried out and not the fears that
that he embodied.
Kristin Taylor: Well, when you think about all the studies… It’s around epigenetics and how trauma can be passed in the bloodline. You know, that’s a
Richard Martini: Well, it’s a fascinating topic. I know. I mean, it’s interesting because of course epigenetics [00:22:00] is a little
squirrely because even that study that they did was They had the, they introduced the smell of flowers, of roses, to mice, and then they murdered them. And then, the offspring of
the mice that they had murdered,
that’s the term,
Kristin Taylor: I was going to say that’s quite a specific term
Richard Martini: I mean, you
had, they had
Kristin Taylor: murdered the mice, euthanized. There are many different verbs
Richard Martini: I’m, you know, you’ve heard me talk about this before, which is
all animals are sentient. So basically you’ve got a human saying, I’m going to kill you after having you smell
flowers. And thank you very much.
then the offspring would smell the
roses and have
Kristin Taylor: and have a traumatic
Richard Martini: response.
Now that doesn’t account for the fact that all animals are sentient. It doesn’t account for the consciousness of the [00:23:00] mouse that was
murdered, who is on the flip side going,
Run! That guy, that
guy’s a creep.
Kristin Taylor: Well, right. There are all these variables that are just not being taken into account
Richard Martini: But I, let me give you one that’s not so dark. But, we were talking about this the other day. So they did a study with crows. And there was a, uh, it was up in Berkeley and they had a guy who had to go out and he had to capture all the crows and net them and you would ever do what he’s putting some kind of health thing.
But he wore a mask, put on like a
Kristin Taylor: I think I know this one. Yeah.
Richard Martini: Yeah. And then, and then, so it was, and crows lived like 30 years, you know, animals live a certain amount of time. So it was beyond the 30 year mark. And they had these crows who, when they saw the mass, they completely freaked out because the story
had been passed along Or So is it
Kristin Taylor: Or are they communicating in
Richard Martini: or are they communicating
from the flip side saying that’s the guy I
tried to warn you
Kristin Taylor: [00:24:00] Well, I would say three. Are they communicating in some way while they’re on the planet? Mama and Papa Crow saying, if you see that guy in crow language that looks like Nixon, okay, you know I’m being ridiculous, but you know what I’m saying, or from the other
side, or it’s epigenetics.
Richard Martini: So all I can say is epigenetics for me seems to be more about the costume that we’re wearing rather than it is about our consciousness because we exist prior to incarnation. We’re out there before
we even get here. we plan our lifetimes. And then once we get here…
We only bring a portion of our consciousness, 20
Kristin Taylor: So I will, yeah, I see what you’re saying academically and intellectually. I hear what you’re saying. I had this experience working with an energy worker. And he was able to identify things in my body that I was like, how did he know that? That’s kind of strange. And he would zero in on certain areas, um, without really even touching me.
And he would [00:25:00] say, in your tissue, I’m sensing here around your shoulder or your hips or your feet, um, this belief system, and it’s not yours. It was your great great grandfather’s. And he’s saying, because he also connects with the other side, and he’s saying, they’re not talking to me. There’s, you know, sometimes they would be talking to him, but he’s like, it’s coming from your body.
Like, the body holds consciousness. So I’ll tell you this, because we were just talking about how, um,
Richard Martini: No, no, I understand that
that’s the theory. I,
Kristin Taylor: that’s
a theory. Well, that’s a theory, but that was also
Richard Martini: THE theory. You’re right. That is THE theory. That people believe that your body holds consciousness. But, but the, um, but here’s the thing. We only
Kristin Taylor: Right, of
Richard Martini: And the rest of it’s back home. So we have filters on the
brain. I’m pointing to the right about
here. Who knows? It
Kristin Taylor: hmm. The third
Richard Martini: Where we filter out all the information that’s back home. [00:26:00] So when a person is saying, I’m sensing that there’s a problem with your body here, it might not be that he’s asking the cells what’s going on. He’s getting the information, well, I’ll give you an example.
I interviewed Edgar Cayce on a podcast. Man, this guy, he was a channeler of Edward Cayce, and I didn’t know that. Um, but we were doing a podcast and he was like, you know, you mind being on my show? And I said, uh, all right, let’s see if we can talk to your guide. And it turns out that was Edgar Casey. So Edgar Casey came forward and I asked him two questions.
One, why were you so wrong with all your predictions? Every prediction you
Kristin Taylor: What’d he say?
Richard Martini: And I said it that way because I was challenging him to see, is this guy going to defend him or what? Because they were. And Edgar said I was giving likely
Kristin Taylor: Mm.
Richard Martini: And that’s not what happened. Okay, that is what the data shows.
That’s what the research shows. I said, well [00:27:00] then tell me, why were you so accurate when it came to medical channeling, where he would go into a trance
and tell people what was wrong with him. It was amazing. Mark
Twain went to see him
Kristin Taylor: I didn’t know that.
Richard Martini: all these famous people went to meet him and talk to him. Because he was so good at that.
And so he would even, people would, they, he’d go into a trance, somebody would read a letter from a guy who was ill in Germany and he’d diagnose the problem and give them the cure. He was very good at it. So I said, why were you so good at it? He said, I had a council that helped me.
Kristin Taylor: Yeah.
Richard Martini: Now the guy that was channeling him had never heard of a
council before. But I asked Edgar, I said, so are, who were these, what were this council? He said, they were all doctors. Healers. And I thought, oh, he’s going to tell me like some famous, you
know, Greek, Hippocratic,
guy. He said, no, none of them have incarnated on earth. So you have [00:28:00] seven doctors in your council that help you from other realms.
He said, yes, they all weighed in on the issue
and solved whatever the problem was.
Kristin Taylor: Which brings us back, well it brings us back to the importance that everyone, everyone has the ability to soften slash remove their filter. And if we are able to connect with our counsel, I, what I take from that is we can be more aligned with our soul’s blueprint, our soul’s contract, whatever it is. If we can tune in because we’ve got masterful beings who can say this is what you are here to do.
In the case of Edgar Cayce, this is the lane that you really shine in because you’re channeling our wisdom.
Richard Martini: absolutely
Kristin Taylor: Okay, so let me, let me pivot it. So to what extent are you able to channel your own counsel and what is the lane you are in?
Richard Martini: Well, I can tell you that in flip side, in the first book that I [00:29:00] wrote, I did a, you know, I did a,
uh, hypnotherapy session. I didn’t think I would get anywhere. I, but I also thought this was a great way to film myself not getting somewhere
to prove that you, you can’t, whatever. Unfortunately, that’s how it happened.
And I found myself in front of my council and, and I saw these eight
Kristin Taylor: Yeah.
Richard Martini: and they all, they all seemed to know me. And it was a weird feeling because it was like, I was, I was myself aware of what’s going on. And also it was my higher self was
Kristin Taylor: I love that
Richard Martini: standing in front of them.
And uh, we got to that question. Why Rich Martini? Why? Why me? Why
did I choose me? And then they showed me and sort of like, and I could see the life planning session and it was me sort of raising my hand and saying, you know, I think I can help heal people. And I’d had many lifetimes as a healer, different healers, apparently, which I’ve discovered later.
[00:30:00] But at this
point, I said, I think I can heal people, um,
Kristin Taylor: Right. I remember
Richard Martini: and through making films. And because, uh, I said, laughter is a, changes your disposition and your health instantly, it can. Tears work the same, but they require catharsis. Now, I’ve never used catharsis in a word, in a sentence before. I, you know, before that time.
I can’t even use it now. But, basically the idea, you go through the emotion and the tears, and then you get to
the healing process.
Kristin Taylor: cathartic.
Richard Martini: And I said, you know, I just wish, so I, so I was sharing that I was seeing that I chose Richard Martini because he was going to be a filmmaker. And I said, I just wish I had chosen somebody with more success.
And that got a laugh, you know, who’s better at it. So that got a laugh from the council, and it also got a laugh from the hypnotherapist. So it was a very strange [00:31:00] experience of hearing laughter on both sides of the veil at the same
time. Um, and I said, but I have a feeling that’s all gonna make sense eventually.
And so here we are, making sense of it. So my intention for taking out a camera to film whatever it is I’m hearing or talking about, or
asking Questions or being annoying, asking
Kristin Taylor: questions, are important.
Richard Martini: So, and that’s my lane. So my lane is… Really is it appears to be and you know, as you know, the story, my friend Luana Anders passed
away and then came and yanked me into this world.
Kristin Taylor: She wasn’t, yeah. And she wasn’t just a friend. What I was starting to understand is like, she was a great love of yours. Yeah. I mean, that seems
Richard Martini: we did, you know, we
were together for 2020
Kristin Taylor: Yeah. Yeah.
Richard Martini: yeah,
Kristin Taylor: So let me
ask you this.
Richard Martini: anyway, you know that, well, how is it, how does it work out? And I have
seen that we’ve had like a previous lifetime together.
Kristin Taylor: Soulmate.
Richard Martini: You know, And yeah,
Kristin Taylor: And I don’t mean in the romantic way. So, so let me, let me say this. Let me
Richard Martini: that’s okay. It was a romantic relationship.
No question about it. I just like to, I just like to, you know, because it, it
started that way. And then eventually it became that we
like best friends.
Kristin Taylor: that’s why I said that to qualify it because I think people, the association with the term soulmate is that it is a, um, You know, it is a romantic and yeah, that is sexual romantic and really soulmates can be with a friend or a colleague or Anything where there’s some sort of soul contract connection many lives together but I want to ask you because you have with all the research and relationships and time you spent with the books and everything that is Shaped who you are today and what you believe today When did this research start?
Like 20 years ago? 15 years ago? How long ago did this start for you?
Richard Martini: Well, [00:33:00] uh, I mean, when Luana passed away in 96, she started showing up and I, I discounted
it and dismissed it. Like, I must be imagining that, but then she started
up to other people. So then I knew that she existed. So then it took another, uh, couple of, well, it was like a year after she passed away, I started studying philosophy, Tibetan philosophy with Robert Thurman, because she had been a Buddhist, and I thought, oh, maybe that’s the key, maybe that’s their thing.
That didn’t turn out to be the avenue, but then it was probably about ten years
that that I first stumbled across the
Michael Newton work,
Kristin Taylor: let me pause
Richard Martini: thought, I’d make a documentary.
Kristin Taylor: let’s take you, Michael Newton, and you’re starting to move in that direction and, and filming people and do the documentary. Okay. How do you live your life daily, just moving through the world that is different than it would have been 10 years ago, 20 years ago, with all that you are learning and experiencing?
Richard Martini: Well, I [00:34:00] think what it is is that it’s, I mean, look, I, I know that I was, uh, I used to do comedy improv. I used to do an improv class and I knew that there’s a certain amount of in the moment. What is the moment? What is the reality of the moment? And I have a certain like a weird sense of humor about certain things.
And so I would find myself no matter where I was in the planet, the more The more I would resist doing this work, you know, working on movies or doing whatever selfless, the more it would show up in front of me. You know, while I was working on the movie Salt, Philip Noyce’s film, Angelina Jolie, I was talking about this research to one of the actors and he said, you know, This isn’t a documentary you’re talking about.
This is a book. You should turn it into a book. And it was that conversation that made it into its first book. Because I realized, I don’t have to edit that. I can just take the transcripts and let people see what it was. And that led to then a New York police [00:35:00] detective pulling me into a room and saying, What do you know about possession?
And I said, What are you talking about? And he said, Well, my daughter is seeing a
ghost. And I said, Okay, who’s the ghost? And he said, I showed her a picture of my partner. She said, that’s him, daddy, but he’s thinner
and has hair
Kristin Taylor: it’s younger.
Richard Martini: And he said, how could my partner, anyway, so how could my partner,
told you the story.
Kristin Taylor: You hadn’t, this is
Richard Martini: years ago. But you know, he wanted to know how his partner who died 10 years ago could be showing up to his 8 year old daughter, thinner. Okay. And so, as I pointed out, people can show
how they want to show
Kristin Taylor: Mm hmm.
Richard Martini: side. And their favorite
look. It’s fine. And I said, but more importantly, is this a friend of yours?
Was this guy a friend of yours? Because I didn’t know. He said, I loved him. I said, well, is it so bad while you’re at work saving the planet? He’s in your house keeping an eye on your eight year old daughter. He said, well, not when you put it that way. So ultimately, and I know [00:36:00] if I could, the question kind of goes into, so here I am making this documentary about.
People talking about the afterlife and connecting
to people in the afterlife. Me finding my friend Luana in her classroom in the afterlife. And then it was this friend of mine who, um, who came to me and said, I’m having a real hard time. My mom passed away and I really want to talk to her. And I didn’t know Jennifer Schaefer at the time, but I did know Scott DeTamble, the hypnotherapist.
LightBetweenLives. com. And I said, you know, Scott, why don’t you do a session with her? I’ll film it. So we did. And in that session, she went back to a lifetime where she remembered being in Jerusalem in the year 18. That’s what kept coming to her mind. And that was the first time I said, well, ask her. I wrote him a note.
You know, here’s my post it. Ask her if she knows Jesus. Or you know, if she ever saw him. He says, you know, he doesn’t say it directly. He just [00:37:00] says, you know, have you ever seen anybody in public speaking? And she said, I’m standing 10 feet away from Jesus. It’s it’s, it’s taking the breath out of me. And, you know, I’m both Scott and I are looking at each other like what?
And so now he has her go closer and talks to, uh, she, you know, she’s taught listening to him talk and she’s talking about the love that’s coming off the guy and it’s in the book, it’s reproduced and you know, the greatest story ever told, but that was the first time that that happened and I’m filming it and I’m thinking to myself.
How did it get to be that me as a filmmaker, I’m sitting here filming this moment. And then I, you know, I kind of, I left it be a chapter in Flipside. But then I kind of avoided talking about it because it just kept happening. He kept showing up. And then finally it wasn’t until Hacking the Afterlife that I, it’s like a third of that book are those stories about Jesus showing [00:38:00] up.
And then as you know, it wasn’t until so many years later that David Kirkpatrick, the former head of Paramount, you know, said you should write a book about the chronological order
of what you’ve heard
Kristin Taylor: so let me slow you down again. Here we are. So that is the story of how this evolved because, you know, on the surface, you didn’t choose it. It chose you, but you’re just following the breadcrumbs and tuning in. So what I’m asking is with all of this exposure. And the mundane, you wake up in the morning, you make coffee, like, how has all of this wisdom shifted you?
Because I can speak for myself, interviewing so many people and doing the research, I do very casually, just out of pure curiosity. I feel compelled to do it. It has changed me. Right? The way I… Treat myself, treat other people, [00:39:00] move through difficulty and strife, move through good times. How who I am as a wife and a mother and a daughter and how has it changed you?
Richard Martini: Well, I would say, and it’s a great question. Um, I would say that it’s changed me in the sense that I find anything somebody tells me not. Like completely weird or strange. So, you know, it doesn’t matter what somebody tells. So if I ask somebody, do you have a dream last night? And they start telling me their dream and they go, Oh, you know, I must’ve made this up.
It’s so weird instead of going, well, let’s just examine it. Why don’t we just talk about it? Um, what I’ve found is that everybody that I’ve spoken to, and there’s so many people, like I mentioned with, uh, divine councils in the afterlife. That came out of a challenge. A friend of mine just said, Why don’t you try it with these scientists and just see what happens?
And I didn’t know. I thought, you know, maybe the odds are going to be half of them talk to councils and [00:40:00] half of them don’t. And, you know, some of them saw Jesus. Some of them saw the angel Gabriel. Some of them saw an angel, uh, Michael. Some of them saw aliens on their council. And I try to just let go of the instant reaction of most people have is fear.
Like, eh, you know, how do I deal with that? And just allow that there’s a reason I’m hearing this. And there’s a reason that it’s in front of me. So do your job and ask the questions that you ask everybody. So, Mr. Alien, can I ask you some
Kristin Taylor: Mm hmm.
Richard Martini: And then they can say no. Or they can say, yes. Or, Mr. Jesus, could I ask you a question?
And he can say, not today, no. I have never had him say no yet. I have had some people on counsel say, because I don’t know who I am. Who are you? I [00:41:00] don’t know who you are. And I’ll ask them, do you know who I am? And if they say no, they’re sometimes reluctant to give up information. Because I’ll say, so, what do you think about this
Kristin Taylor: Mm hmm.
Richard Martini: and they’ll say, Like, I don’t know who you are. Why are you asking these questions? But the person next to them on the council goes, of course I know who you are. We love what you’re doing. This is fantastic. So when you hear somebody off planet, again, this is a person I’m, a scientist I’m talking to, has never talked to anybody off, outside of their world, now is having a conversation with somebody who’s a wise being.
On the other side, and I’m asking them, ask them if they
know me and they say, I don’t even know how they possibly could,
Kristin Taylor: they
Richard Martini: me that not only do they, but they
encourage you to keep doing what you’re doing. So that’s how
it’s changed me. I,
Kristin Taylor: Well, you’re stepping, sorry, you’re stepping
into what I hear is you’re stepping into [00:42:00] your soul’s contract, a simplified way of doing
Richard Martini: I guess
Kristin Taylor: Yeah. I’m saying all this information, I could easily go, well, that’s really weird. And then you want a cup of coffee and where are you going for, you know, whatever, keep going.
But you’re like, I recognize what was that Freudian, like sometimes a cigar is not just a cigar or whatever you’re realizing. You’re realizing that there’s, uh, you have, I don’t know what the word is, whether it’s an opportunity or perhaps an obligation or you being in your
Richard Martini: I think it’s more on the
obligation side because. You know, uh, the thing that probably affected me the most, I would say, when I think back, like, what am I doing? Um, and that was a book talk that I gave in Santa Monica and a woman came with a copy of Flipside and it was like dog eared and posted notes in it.
And, uh, she raised her hand and I said, you know, how are you, how are you doing? And she said, I just wanted to look you in the [00:43:00] eye and say,
you for saving my
Kristin Taylor: Hmm.
Richard Martini: Her daughter had died. She was having a hard time getting through the day. And somehow, and as I’m fond of saying, it’s not me. It’s, it’s these people, I’m just giving testimony.
I’m filming them
and they’re saying these things. So, for, I thought, I realized,
that’s not a review I’m ever going to get from a movie.
So no matter
Kristin Taylor: Exactly.
Richard Martini: I write, You know, how many movies I make, it doesn’t matter. I’ll never
Kristin Taylor: That’s right.
Richard Martini: So, so that puts an obligation on you at least to help people where you can, if you can.
Uh, and really it’s about eliminating stress and fear. You know, and I, I’ve been asked this question a number of times. Which is, this research, does this prove that religion is accurate? Because are you talking about [00:44:00] faith? About, you know, the idea of, there is an afterlife. Since we don’t think we can know it, it must be a faith issue.
It must be a belief in issue. And I keep saying, it has zero to do with religion. It’s data, it’s research, and it’s experiences. And when people… Tell you their experience instead of putting it off and saying, I don’t believe you, or that couldn’t have happened. Allow people to share their reality, and if you do that, eventually you’ll see that their reality, their experiences on the flip side, are consistent.
They have all the same hallmarks. Talking to guides, talking to teachers, talking to wise beings, seeing Jesus, but also Krishna. But then if you ask those individuals, is the religion that’s based on your appearance accurate? They all say the same thing. It’s metaphor. Don’t take it so [00:45:00] literally. Because you’re not really seeing the picture at all.
Try to drop
all your beliefs.
Kristin Taylor: is really hard. Especially to someone who’s really
Richard Martini: But drop them all. And focus on… But focus on your own experience. So, and you can do these experiments on your own. You can talk to your grandmother. You can ask them questions. And if you keep doing it, I mean, you know, you know, they say call your mother.
Call your mother on the phone. Well, call your grandmother on the phone too. And it’s not so hard to do. And it’s ten minutes a week, months, where you say, Grandma, I just want to have a conversation with you. Now, A, how are you doing? Who are you hanging out with? Who are
surprised to see over there?
Kristin Taylor: you?
Richard Martini: You got any tips for
me about how to get through life?
How hard can
Kristin Taylor: Yeah. Well, the same goes of the guides. Back to that idea that they are uniquely part of your counsel for whatever you’re here to do whatever we are here to do
Richard Martini: Yeah, yeah.
Kristin Taylor: so
Richard Martini: [00:46:00] No, I think that’s
Kristin Taylor: Time goes by so fast. I know I feel like we’re just getting started
Richard Martini: started.
Kristin Taylor: No, it’s going by so
fast. So as a final parting question, is there something that you haven’t said yet?
That feels something like as you You’re connected with your divine counsels that you really want to impart with people. They listen to this and they go, I heard
Richard Martini: let me, so let me say this, which is, uh, So in our podcast, Hacking the Afterlife, if you want to hear what people should hear, the past month we’ve had unbelievable conversations with people who’ve come through to say, just love the person you’re with. Love more. Love better. And there is an example in the movie, um, After Death.
This guy sees Jesus, and he’s very smitten [00:47:00] and crazy about it, and he’s crying and sobbing. And he says, Jesus, what do I do? What do I tell people? How do I tell them about this experience? And Jesus says to him, just love your partner. And the guy says, wait a minute, I’m here, I have to go share this message with the world.
And he says, no, like you’re not listening to me, just love your partner. But he comes back from the experience. His wife doesn’t believe him. He then goes on and becomes a, uh, preacher and his children abandon him, and now he’s completely disconnected from his family. And it’s like, what Part of, just love your
Your partner wasn’t clear. It’s what we hear in the research over and over again. Love. Learn to love. Learn to let go. Try to love unconditionally if you can.
Kristin Taylor: It’s beautiful. It’s perfect. It’s a perfect place to to end. you.
Richard Martini: To
Kristin Taylor: I know,
right? It is the perfect place to begin. Well said.[00:48:00]
Well said. Thank you, as always.
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