David Hanzel: Here’s the better thing too. In the future, we won’t be getting charged for our electricity like we’re paying for it now either.

 Hello, today we have with us psychic medium David Hansel at TheyWhisperToMe. com. He’s been a frequent guest, so he doesn’t need, I hope, too much introduction. Um, for those of you who are new, go to TheyWhisperToMe. com. He is a, He’s done quite a few readings for me, and he is phenomenal and kind and wonderful and so thrilled to have you back.

Kristin Taylor: And before we get started, I’m trying to remember to do this. If you are viewing this on our YouTube channel, I ask kindly that you please like and subscribe. It [00:01:00] helps get these powerful messages out there. Welcome David.

David Hanzel: Hello, nice to be back.

Kristin Taylor: Nice

David Hanzel: are you? Are you doing good?

Kristin Taylor: I am doing good. I’m going through a really interesting time, but over well, I’m doing over well, over all, I’m doing well.

David Hanzel: Interesting times are good. It’s exciting.

Kristin Taylor: It is exciting. I feel like there’s a lot that is about to unfold and it feels more aligned and positive personally Knowing that there’s a lot that the world and humanity is going through which is why before we get started I just ask if it’s okay if I ask some questions of your guides about the future and For those who are listening some of the questions that come up for me Um, are around, um, healthcare and technology, AI, the environment, um, where we see ourselves, where he, meaning his guides, where they say 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, [00:02:00] 40 years, like what, what is up ahead and what are we being prepared for?

That’s where my curiosity lies.

David Hanzel: Okay, do you have a specific where you want to go?

Kristin Taylor: Yeah. So I was, uh, well tell me if this works for you, like if we were to go say even just 10 years into the future. And hang out there for a little bit and I’ll ask some questions and then 20 years into the future, hang out there and I’ll ask some questions.

David Hanzel: We’re laughing about 10 years and 20 years in the future. Um,

Kristin Taylor: Why is that funny?

David Hanzel: well, there’s a chuckle and to anybody who’s listening, please, no matter what happens in this world, no matter what happens in your life, I’m going to remind you right now that you’re going to be just fine. Okay. So you’re going to be fine.

Everybody’s going to be fine. That’s the way it goes. Alright? Um, the reason they laugh about 10 and 20 years in the future is because there are things that are coming up and we have different ways we can go. So we do have the visitors, who are actually here. They always [00:03:00] have been here. Uh, to make themselves more known to humanity will be within the next 10 years.

So that’s going to immensely change the whole dynamic of the place and so it’s kind of open to interpretation. there’s several ways to go. Um, I wouldn’t, I would like to um, let people know that if So we’re going to talk about otherworldly beings for a minute because that is what’s going to change our direction.

Um, all this could be going on right now and it was, but the moment that a ship would land and say, Hi, we’re here, let everybody know, all this stuff would stop. It would be like, all right, this stuff is just nonsensical stupid. This is just stupid. The war is stupid. The presidency, all that stuff is just stupid at this point.

It’s just, it’s just senseless. It’s just you guys being, we don’t know what you’re trying to accomplish, you know? So things would change on that point and it would change for a good reason. Please do not expect anybody to come here and [00:04:00] save anybody. This, the saving starts within yourself and I think that’s what they’re waiting for.

They’re waiting for us to do things within ourselves, to become more aware, to become more tolerant, tolerant, to become more nonjudgmental of things too. And yes, there is a difference between lie and truth. Even though a lot of people, We’ll say, well, what is the truth? What is the lie? And that’s a really good question because of the fact there are some people who believe a certain thing is the truth.

Even though the majority of us go, no, that’s not the truth. Factually, that’s not the truth. But in their eyes, that’s where they are. It’s kind of like when I was in the hospital, um, after, when I was, came out of the coma and they thought I had, um, dementia. I still remember parts of that and, um, yesterday I got a nice reminder that sent me into tears for the longest time I have not cried or been sad for a long, for years and that came in and it was a memory and that was a memory when, uh, [00:05:00] some lady posted about when her husband was sick and getting sick they gave him the clock test for dementia.

Kristin Taylor: Yeah. I know that one well.

David Hanzel: I had the clock test. So I was on the end of that clock test. I was the guy getting tested. Who would have known?

Kristin Taylor: hmm. You’re the receiving end

David Hanzel: everything in my head was mine, and it was real to me, and it was my truth. So, even though to the world, the stuff I was thinking, they’d be like, Oh David, that’s not happening, that’s not like this.

I’d be like, Yes it is! What do you mean it’s not? And I would argue with them and get upset because it was literally my truth.

Kristin Taylor: hmm.

David Hanzel: this way if you want to gauge truth in lies. A truth most likely will not permanently hurt anything. The truth eventually will heal something that’s hurt. And the truth will make something that isn’t hurt not get hurt.

A lie will hurt someone. And a lie will continue to [00:06:00] hold somebody down. Always. So, if you believe in something and it’s constantly holding you down, constantly making you frustrated, constantly making you this, then you might not be seeing the truth. You might be seeing the lie and mistaking it. Does that make sense to you?

Kristin Taylor: Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

David Hanzel: so in 10 years from now, if they were to come here, there would be a complete shift because of the fact that, and I don’t think they’re going to be abrupt, just show up like that. Um, too many things will have to

Kristin Taylor: To clarify. To clarify, I’m sorry. Just to those who may not be totally following, you’re talking about extraterrestrials,

David Hanzel: Yeah.

Kristin Taylor: what would, yeah. Okay.

David Hanzel: other, other things, other beings being known, not even just extraterrestrials. I mean. We have, I mean, there’s some extra, some people believe that every extraterrestrial is coming from another planet here. That’s not true. [00:07:00] A lot of them are coming in through other ways. They’re in dimensions right next to us.

They always have been right next to us. Some of them are aware of us. Some of them aren’t even aware that we’re aware of them. I mean it goes both ways. As they come in, uh, the ones who, who aren’t, who are coming in interdimensionally, I believe are more of, uh, spiritual type beings. If you are in, let’s say the fifth dimension, this is just how I see it, if somebody’s listening sees it differently, that’s okay.

It’s really okay. Everybody’s got a certain way they look at things. The fifth dimension to me, not fifth dimensional thinking, because a lot of us are in fifth dimensional thinking, but we’re not in the fifth dimension. If we were in the fifth dimension, we’d probably wouldn’t have our human bodies anymore. A lot of the aliens, I guess we’ll call them, are extraterrestrials, are not of the physical form. They would be 5th dimensional, 6th dimensional, which means they’re coming in and out. They are, [00:08:00] we’re not as advanced as them because we don’t remember that we’re spirit. We are, from what I know of, and I could be wrong, but we’re pretty much like the last ones left who don’t know that We are not a human being.

You know what I’m saying? We, we don’t realize, we don’t realize we’re way much more than that. They come into this world knowing that already. They come in knowing that they’re spiritual beings. They know that they’re coming in as this being, having this experience to do X, Y, Z. People on the Earth don’t think that.

Uh, we have so many of us that think, Well, there isn’t anything after this, we just die, or there’s a hell, or there’s some kind of threat, or the world’s gonna destroy, or we’re just kind of running around in this universe with no direction whatsoever. And that could not be furthest from the truth. Even the times where you think, Wow, that was random.

Nothing is random. There isn’t anything random. [00:09:00] Nothing.

Kristin Taylor: the folks who are more the materialist who are really just like anything that is true is something that I can touch through or connect through my senses other things do not

David Hanzel: right now the world is, it’s almost like the, we’re doing evolution, not just of the world. We’ve always been going through evolution, but we’re doing evolution of the world. We’re also doing evolution of the soul. We’re also doing elevation of our learning and all beings are. So the beings who are going to come here in their eyes.

Um, I mean, we would think this is their first time coming here to do this, you know, and to them, this is an adventure too. But they also know in the back of their heads as, no, this has happened in the future. We’re playing out the future right now, which is really, I’m going to try not to make it too difficult to think

Kristin Taylor: yeah that’s

David Hanzel: but yeah, to, to us, this is all new to them.

This is a process they’re doing. They’re fulfilling, let’s just say they’re fulfilling a prophecy. They’re fulfilling [00:10:00] something that already happened. So are

Kristin Taylor: they’re not here yeah so they’re not here to save us but

David Hanzel: Uh, well, they’re here to, to push us. They have been. They’re here to push us forward. We have to do it ourselves. Some people say, and I don’t know how true this is, I have a feeling that they are all over. There’s a bunch of ships all over in the atmosphere right now.

Kristin Taylor: mm hmm

David Hanzel: um, they’re there. So they say.

I, just from one, one particular experience I have, I have to say that I know, cause remember I told you one time I was driving down the road and I had said, where are you or whatever in the next thing I know it, here’s this band that’s coming under the clouds and I’m like, Oh dude, you’re totally here, you know?

And that was good. That was cool.

Kristin Taylor: mm

David Hanzel: And I’m not any special why I saw it. It’s just because I wanted to. And that’s all anybody ever needs to be here. If, if you want to see or have that relationship with something that’s not here yet, [00:11:00] even if you don’t believe it, if you’re just open to saying, Hey, I welcome any friends who come down here.

I welcome seeing anybody. I don’t care if they look like me or look like something else. That’s a big thing we’re going through, and we have been forever, is the look like me thing. And if you look the way the world is almost being trained, Because they’re trying, we’re watching us, you know, why does this person think that that person who looks slightly different from them is bad?

And they’re like, that’s not good because we look way different from they

Kristin Taylor: Yeah. Well,

David Hanzel: some do not all, some look like us.

Kristin Taylor: Well, that’s what I want to ask. And then I do want to get into healthcare and technology and just what life looks like differently. So I hear they’re going to be coming here, they’re going to be a catalyst for change. It’s part of this process of like, come on, we need to level up, we need to wake up.

They’re not going to save us. But, you know, since Time immemorial, when you think about Hollywood [00:12:00] or, um, literature, when we think of other beings it’s like, oh my God, this is the scariest thing in the world and they’re going to attack us. How do human beings respond? We’re afraid of each other. If someone’s skin looks different from our own, we’re afraid of them.

How on earth will we respond to

David Hanzel: why in a lot of people will hide that too. And that’s why the world is going through what it’s going through. If you will notice maybe about, It’s always been, we’ve always had conflict in the world, always, because that’s what keeps, you know, that’s what keeps us going. We have conflict. Otherwise, we’d just be boring.

We’d come here and we’d just sit here and go, you know, Earth, yay, woo. You know,

Kristin Taylor: Yeah,

David Hanzel: we have to have something. We got to learn from conflict. So, but conflict is fine, but, uh, If you look, if you ever see The Last Starfighter, do you remember that movie?

Kristin Taylor: You’ve mentioned that before, I need to, I will see it, The Last Starfighter, I’ve never even heard of it outside of

David Hanzel: Okay, it’s almost the same thing right now. So in the last Starfighter, [00:13:00] in short, the synopsis is, there’s some kid who lives in the middle of nowhere, who has, goes into the store and they, and they has this like, galaxy game or a, you know, a video game, like from the 80s or 90s, those kind of games, and he plays it over and over and over.

Well he gets to this level and that’s where they come down and they get him to be the last starfighter to help in a war that’s going on. They needed to find a pilot so that’s how they did it by putting a game out there to see if there’s somebody who could be like this. It’s almost like the same thing they’re doing to us.

So let’s give them this to see how they react to it. So it’s kind of like the wars people seeing little things here and there. They also said, you know what? Um, there’s a lot of people hiding a lot of stuff about themselves that needs to come to the surface. So that’s where all the evil came from that people are seeing on here.

So all, um, you know, and I hate to say it and I don’t want to make anybody [00:14:00] feel bad. So Um, when I talk about something, I’m not talking about anybody in particular, it’s, uh, I’m talking about org, you know, clumps of people. So Religion. Religion used to be a lot about love. Well, first it started out crappy and then really bad.

And then we, there’s a, there’s a time where people who went to church were actually sweet people and wanted to help people. And then that went away. And now they want to judge people. They now have, a man is now making people fear God. And that’s not God doing that. That’s, that’s us. We’re doing that. I mean, what better way to, To get money out of people or control out of people is to say, do as I say, or you burn in hell, you know, give us some money so we can survive.

God wants you to give us money so we can be here to tell you more stuff. Okay, so that’s happening. Um, that’s getting worse and worse and then the wars and then politics. Um, there is a truth in

Kristin Taylor: Are you saying that’s happening, wait David, when

David Hanzel: That’s happening

Kristin Taylor: happening, I mean clearly that’s happening now, [00:15:00] but in ten, in ten years is like a blip of time, that’s not very long, but is that going to start to be, as you’re talking about the lies and

David Hanzel: in the next, well before that, it’s gonna start to decline. It’s gonna start to get better.

Kristin Taylor: well before that, people are going to start to see it for what it is.

David Hanzel: People, yeah, people are going to, people are now, there’s a lot of people now who do have a change of heart, but they’re afraid to say something. When those par, when all those people get that courage up will be good.

And they will,

Kristin Taylor: Okay.

David Hanzel: You know, I, I always

Kristin Taylor: So I want to ask. Can I ask?

David Hanzel: Mm-hmm.

Kristin Taylor: Go ahead,

David Hanzel: I was gonna, my guy just

Kristin Taylor: you’re going to say I always,

David Hanzel: He said to, uh, tell people that, once again, The change starts from within. When you start accepting all the differences that are in, when you start to see the beauty through the ick, when you start to tell yourself that evil is something that is in the mind of man, it is, he always says, this is not in the mind of us.

[00:16:00] We know, you know, evil. They don’t know evil. Religion made evil. Religion made demons. Religion, none of this stuff existed before. So, I mean, I kind of feel bad for like, Demonologists and all this when, uh, it’s like, well, if they come here, you’re going to know that there is no such thing as demons. Cause they’re going to let you know there are no demons.

There are no ghosty demons like this over there, over there.

Kristin Taylor: yeah, yeah, okay.

David Hanzel: we think of it. Yeah.

Kristin Taylor: Because we think it, we’re so invested in thinking that and for all the reasons that you just, um, spoke to. So I want to ask. And 10 years from now, and I think so many of our listeners, myself included, um, you know, we have children and so we’re so invested in what, what does their future look like?

Um, you know, and day to day I’m hearing consciousness is starting to be elevated. There’s more, this love consciousness, people recognizing that this evil and control is not the truth.

David Hanzel: [00:17:00] there is something cool. That’s, that’s happening. And this is what I’m getting from that. I get from them and, I’ll put it as a prediction, but it’s, it’s liable is a cool thing that a really nice thing that is happening. You know, all the children that as of late in the last few years have been born with like ADHD and everybody’s got all these problems, all these emotional problems, those are going to start to deteriorate and go back down.

Kristin Taylor: Oh,

David Hanzel: are going to start to stop having them. We’re figuring this out now.

Kristin Taylor: Okay, okay, very very good.

David Hanzel: it’s misunderstood by us. We see it as an emotional disease, but that’s only because we don’t know what to hand, what these people and these kids, they’re actually more of their true selves and we want them to conform to us.

Kristin Taylor: I love that and I agree with you and I love that we’re now even calling it neurodiversity rather than it’s, uh, you know, a pathology. That recognizing people process information differently, their brains are wired differently and perhaps that is for a reason and it’s helping again to elevate us. [00:18:00] Okay, so there’s one thing I really want to ask about and it’s very, very specific and it’s been on my mind a lot as someone who has a chronic disease, um, is CRISPR technology, gene editing.

Some people I talk to and they’re like, Oh yeah, that’s really going to be in many ways the panacea for reversing so many diseases. And some people are like, just that is the worst thing we could be doing. We are playing with fire. It could lead to all sorts of terrifying outcomes. What are you getting?

What are you guys getting on CRISPR technology? CRISPR. It’s C R I S P R. CRISPR technology. It’s gene editing.

David Hanzel: Um, they come at me with a little bit of laughter, because I said, you guys have had your genes edited many, many times, either in that form. We’ve changed [00:19:00] many times. We’ve been tweaked. Our, who humans are, humans aren’t in original existence. Sorry people, that whole, we’re in God’s image has nothing to do with what we look like.

That has to do with our soul. Um, um, I don’t understand. Okay, I don’t understand it, so I’m going to tell you what he’s saying. It’s going to be okay, because they’re going to figure it out.

Kristin Taylor: That’s

David Hanzel: going to be of assi It’s going to be helpful. There are It can be used in another way, but I think that’s going to be cut off right away.

Kristin Taylor: Okay, good.

David Hanzel: Does that make sense?

Kristin Taylor: That does make sense to me because used in the wrong hands and used with malevolence, it could lead to… Cataclysmically horrific outcomes for humanity, and I think understandably that’s what people are afraid of. But in 10 years, will it be used in ways that help to cure disease?

David Hanzel: A little [00:20:00] longer.

Kristin Taylor: That right now?

A little longer? A

David Hanzel: A little longer than ten years, but it’ll start to incorporate. Yeah, there’s a full What, there’s a, the understanding is not going to come from most of the people here. This is one of, that’s one of those things where there’s a lot of our, there’s a lot of technology that they had told me about and there’s a lot of cures for everything that we have that are deep in.

Some people won’t accept the cure the way it goes, but it’s the right way to do it. Um, every human being, and they had told me this before. Every single human being on your planet, when you come here, has the ability to heal itself completely. All the time.

Kristin Taylor: hmm.

David Hanzel: But the way the world works, and because of the,

Kristin Taylor: this.

David Hanzel: yeah, because of the fact that we are under that, they’ll call it a spell.

So we, we’re under that spell of amnesia, so we forget where we’re coming from. It’s just. This reality, where we are, [00:21:00] you, we can’t change that about the reality. The thinking has to change the reality. The reality can’t change the thinking. Does that make sense? Because we make, we make the reality, the reality.

They give us a, a piece of paper and then we draw on it. And that’s what we’ve been doing. Now we have people with special pencils and special pens who, if they were to draw on that, In fear of ruining what’s out there right now, or changing it too much, they won’t write on it, but it’s still there. They’re incorporating these things in there.

Um, what you’re talking about, um, The reason it’s not out there is because there are some people, thank you, there are some, thank you, There are some people, he said, let her know that some people can’t know about it, is what it is. Does that make sense? Some people are not to know about it. They would use it wrong.

They already know

Kristin Taylor: Okay. That’s, that’s why I’m asking [00:22:00] the question. That’s why I phrased in that way. So, the technology is already available and to some extent, but the timing is off is what I’m gathering from your guides.

David Hanzel: It’s not off as exactly where it should be. The timing’s going to show up where it’s supposed to. Yeah.

Kristin Taylor: good rephrase, good phrase. Good. So, it’s not to happen now.

David Hanzel: No, it can’t.

Kristin Taylor: Because of

David Hanzel: It can’t. Yeah.

Kristin Taylor: dark people who would misuse it and abuse it.

David Hanzel: Yeah, we have a lot of stuff that’s out there that, that, uh, biggest reasons for it. So when some people get mad going, we have all this technology, why aren’t they releasing it? Because some people aren’t ready for the technology. It’s like if you have a five year old and you say, Hey, here’s a book of matches, look what this does.

Isn’t that cool? And then the five year old goes, yeah, and starts lighting stuff on fire. That doesn’t mean that the five year old is evil. But it means he had no

Kristin Taylor: just don’t

David Hanzel: how to use that information. And that’s what it is with that [00:23:00] information you’re talking about. There are people who still haven’t a clue how to use it.

Kristin Taylor: Okay. Okay. So. I have a few more, well, more than a few more questions and, and a lot of these for, these questions are coming from, um, a couple of podcasts I saw where this man that I recently actually met, his name is Stefan A. Schwartz. He, um, for most of his career, which has been about 50, maybe even 60 years, has been engaged in remote viewing.

And he has talked about, um, in the future, two things happening. And I’m not saying this is within ten years, but it was mostly around 2040 to 2050 that there’s going to be, like, in the next 30 years, this monumental shift. And, um, he had something like… I can’t remember how many viewers… I think like 6, 000 viewers.

And then he just… cold through the data to [00:24:00] try to find what thematically is emerging. So a couple of things that were really interesting, and I’d be curious to hear what your guides are saying. Um, I’ll start with most vehicles are EV, electrical vehicles, and they’re actually getting charged from the roads, the streets, in some sort of way mechanism,

David Hanzel: I can see that. I can see that.

Kristin Taylor: Okay.

David Hanzel: Yeah, we are

Kristin Taylor: said, okay, Okay.

David Hanzel: To explain real quickly, we are going away from gasolines and fossil fuels. That is gonna happen. Sorry people. It just has to. We’re done. We have something better.

Kristin Taylor: it has to,

David Hanzel: Here’s the better thing too. In the future, we won’t be getting charged for our electricity like we’re paying for it now either.

Kristin Taylor: that’s, that’s exactly what he said as well. And I believe he did. If it wasn’t him, it was somewhere else that I heard that. He also was saying, okay, what he was also saying the remote viewers were revealing is um, states seceding. There’s going to be blue states, [00:25:00] essentially, and red states, like the United States will still be the United States.

It will still be a sovereign country. However, there will be sort of different little factions.

David Hanzel: That’s a

Kristin Taylor: And he said what he, what they’re… Okay.

David Hanzel: It’s a possible. That one, I know what he’s talking about. Um, I know what he’s talking about cause I had a couple of visions like that too. Um, there, I had different ones. Um, I like one better than I like the other, but it’s not up to me. One is we do that, what he said. The other is, which a lot of people don’t like, is all the boundaries go away.

Because there’s no need for them. When we keep even

Kristin Taylor: The boundaries between states.

David Hanzel: yeah, even when we put blue states to red states, as human beings we’re doing exactly what they’re on the other side trying to get us to stop doing. Quit separating [00:26:00] yourself is that’s what we’re doing. We keep falling under that.

Let’s separate. That’s your idea You guys go over there and have your idea you guys come over here. I have this idea. It’s like no We can just be together and have separate ways. We see things, but we don’t have to separate ourselves That’s what I think they’re going through kind of like when people say, Oh, you should never talk to people about politics and religion.

I thought to myself, if you’re grown up, smart, and aware, you should be able to have that conversation. There’s no reason why you shouldn’t. And that’s the reason why it is like it is, because nobody’s having that conversation. Everybody’s afraid

Kristin Taylor: And they don’t have the, yeah, they don’t have the

David Hanzel: I do see that, I do see that part he’s talking about.

I think that’s sooner than later, and I think later on, it’s where they take, I mean, later on. Literally, this world will not have separate governments. It

Kristin Taylor: Okay, that’s way later on.

David Hanzel: That’s way later on, but yeah, most of us won’t

Kristin Taylor: later on. Yeah, yeah. [00:27:00] What he also said was, um, and again, what his data is revealing, are revealing, excuse me, um, Um, is that certain states due to climate change will be uninhabitable, like a state like Arizona, because the heat

David Hanzel: we stay on this path. If we stay on this

Kristin Taylor: And he said, this is what they’re saying, and there are all these different paths we can go down.

David Hanzel: if you, if you’re looking at this one, I’m not being mean. Okay. You know, and I hate to say this to people and some people might hate me, but I don’t really care. If we keep denying climate change, yes, we will have uninhabited places on this earth.

And that will be the fault of our own. Alright, um, I don’t see that happening because the other ones who aren’t here with us, let’s call them the extraterrestrials. They don’t want us to go through that because they know when there’s going to be another mass [00:28:00] extinction. We’ve had several of them. We’ve had many species that have been here, ruled the world for millions of years, and then left.

We do not want to be those. So, we are being closely watched and monitored because they don’t want us to do that. But if we do, that’s us. Um. So if we keep denying climate change, if we keep saying, oh, this is nothing, weather changes, no, it is literally changing, and it is because of us. So, we can just, and that’s one of the things, if, if we are in that part where there is electricity, and we are charging vehicles on the road and all that, that’s, that’s, that’s where, that would be the time that we got past the climate change then.

Because that would have helped in climate change. Yeah.

Kristin Taylor: Okay. That’s so interesting because he was saying both were existing at the same time. So there was the EVs. He was saying states like, um, Arizona no longer are inhabitable. He was saying the, the coasts have eroded parts of like Santa Monica and [00:29:00] Manhattan beach and

David Hanzel: we deny California where you are, I saw one time

Kristin Taylor: I’m not in California. I’m in Washington.

David Hanzel: Washington but in, but in like in Los Angeles cause I’m just talking, cause that’s what I’m talking about is Los Angeles, where Los Angeles is there was I saw something one time and it wasn’t major destruction. So it’s not like a doom and gloom thing.

Kristin Taylor: Yeah.

David Hanzel: But we saw the ocean was starting to change. The ocean was starting to change. It was becoming different. It was the coastline didn’t look as neat and tidy. It was starting to get eroded over. Um, this has already happened in Florida.

Kristin Taylor: that’s what I was going to say next. It’s just risen

David Hanzel: temperature has already changed in Florida.

Kristin Taylor: Mm hmm.

David Hanzel: What does, what does mother nature have to do to people

Kristin Taylor: Just say, come on.

David Hanzel: There’s something wrong.

Kristin Taylor: Yes. Yes.

David Hanzel: and we keep getting, now there is some stuff like they keep coming up with new diseases [00:30:00] and new species of animals and bird flus and all that. I will tell you this, some of it is true, a lot of it is absolutely 100 percent conspiracy not true.

Kristin Taylor: Okay.

David Hanzel: but, uh, we have to, we either fall for it or we don’t. It’s kind of like, it’s kind of like, um, some diseases. We all have the spark of that disease in us. It’s just how the bodies go. And depending on how we take care of ourselves is whether we got that disease.

Kristin Taylor: Well, it’s not only how we take care of ourselves is what I’m learning. It’s how we take care of the environment because they’re interchangeable, that, that, that symbiosis, right? And so he was saying, and again, this, if we go down this path, there will continue to be more pandemics because of the link between our health and the environment.

David Hanzel: yeah. It’s in

Kristin Taylor: He was also,

David Hanzel: with their food, their food. Yeah. Their food too. Cause they told me about that before. Cause I had [00:31:00] asked, I just asked my guide one night point blank. I’m like, because my pancreas went out, but that was cause a different cause. Mine, uh, mine just doesn’t digest food. So I don’t have, It’s like a form of EPI almost.

It’s like, uh, endocrine pancreatic inefficiency. I have to take pills for the rest of my life to digest food. Otherwise it won’t digest and I won’t get the nutrients. That is… Because people ask me, Is that something that you happen because you were a bad person or something? I’m like, No, it’s because how I lived my life prior to when I was sick.

So I have to still learn that lesson. So I’m here It’s gotten better though But food it’s like people how many people have IBS how many people are allergic to dairy all of a sudden how many people are Doing that because and they keep telling us they’re like you guys leave the food alone. They’re getting too greedy with the food They’re over processing.

They’re over making they’re over killing. They’re over doing all these things and these are the

Kristin Taylor: Right. Well, right. Round up in our meat. I mean, excuse me, in our wheat.

David Hanzel: [00:32:00] yep

Kristin Taylor: Yeah. Yeah.

David Hanzel: They’re playing, they’re playing with this stuff. And people can, and he said that’s the only reason you guys are having this. He said it doesn’t even have to be a pandemic. You can literally solve this. If people stopped eating this stuff, they would have to stop producing it. Because nobody would want it.

It would be a waste of their money.

Kristin Taylor: that’s a big, all of this is a very monumental shift.

David Hanzel: That’s why they always say, it 20 years.

Kristin Taylor: yes. Yes. Okay, another thing that was revealed, um, was that hospitals are vastly, vastly different. They’re like wellness centers and they’re far more holistic and it’s mind, body, spirit and they recognize a lot of what you’re just saying right now, this change in consciousness, that that is in the future.

David Hanzel: In the 20 year future, right around that area, I can’t be specific, our hospitals will not just contain doctors, they will contain healers. They will contain, um, [00:33:00] Reiki, they will contain crystal healers, they will contain these things. Uh, the reason these things don’t work for everybody right now is because of the belief in it.

Kristin Taylor: that’s

David Hanzel: believe in something, it doesn’t work.

Kristin Taylor: It’s, well that’s that placebo nocebo effect, I mean it’s so powerful, it’s

David Hanzel: And that’s going to be in there. It’s just like, I agreed, they started something and I wish they would do it for the police. They were going to start taking trained psychologists or spiritual people to go along to, like, if there’s a domestic dispute, it wouldn’t just be a police officer going over there.

They could call in somebody to come over. And say, let’s talk about this now. Instead of taking someone to jail, instead of doing all this, let’s sit down and talk about this and have a mediator. Because a policeman can’t do that. A policeman’s job, and it’s not their fault, their job is not to write the law, it’s to uphold the law.

That’s what it is.

Kristin Taylor: yep,

David Hanzel: only thing they can do. But if we have trained people that says, I [00:34:00] have been trained to speak to people. I have been trained to do that. We can probably, we could probably get rid of a lot more violent things. And a lot more senseless domestic violence things that aren’t

Kristin Taylor: well that, yeah, that applies to so much, I mean it’s really fundamentally looking at the infrastructure of how we deal with humanity, you know, between in our cities and I

David Hanzel: I know

Kristin Taylor: when you think of

David Hanzel: there’s a small change that I don’t think people are seeing yet, but I think it’ll start, I think people will start to see it. And that is with domestic abuse. So… Um, I had asked about it one time, because I don’t know, I’ve never been like a woman who was beaten by a man. Or that I

Kristin Taylor: not in this lifetime,

David Hanzel: Not this one, yeah, I’m sure I have, but, um. When that happens in our current situation, they go to the house, you know, the guy just beat the crap out of somebody and they take him to jail and she’s stuck sitting there and then she’s put through the system, which is [00:35:00] probably just as scary as the person hitting her.

And that shouldn’t be like that. The minute that person’s gone. That person who was hurt should immediately have people around her to help her, not put her through processes and talk to people and write paper, but just to be with that person. We always leave that step out. There’s no compassion for that person.

They go from a mechanical relationship where they were, you know, beat or threatened all the time, thrust into another thing. Yeah. And then most people saying, well, are you sure you didn’t instigate that? Okay. No, you want to, I want to backhand those people who say

Kristin Taylor: Yeah.

David Hanzel: Um, no. Cause nobody instigates violence really.

There’s really no need for it. Even if somebody instigates it, unless somebody’s trying to physically hurt you, there is no reason to come back to hurt that person.

Kristin Taylor: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No, no, no. And what we’re talking about is [00:36:00] rehabilitation and we’re talking about is like you said is the compassion to understand what this does to a human being, the human spirit and help people to move out of abject poverty and domestic violence

David Hanzel: Yeah, so you’ll see that within the next 20 years. Yeah, you’ll see that within the next 20. Mm hmm.

Kristin Taylor: Okay. I love that. So let’s talk a little bit about AI. I mean, we already have things like ChatGPT and there are all these, you know, smart devices, but a lot of people are really excited about it, and then you hear a lot of doomsday, like the machines are going to take over.

David Hanzel: You’re always gonna have doomsday people. They’ve made too many movies. That’s why. Um, I’m gonna tell everybody this. The AI we have right now will never, ever, ever, ever, ever replace a human being. Okay? That just, it’s not going to. Now, this is what the question I had asked is, Will we ever make a robot that we can put a soul into? And the answer is yes.

Kristin Taylor: Really, I’m sitting here going, no, no.

David Hanzel: already. [00:37:00] It hasn’t happened here. Um, some of the greys that we see, the greys that people talk about, not all of them, but there’s some section of them, they were literally made in a test tube. They’re like test tube y or whatever. They’re made like that. They’re more mechanical and everything.

And the soul comes into them. How they do it, I do not know. I do not know. I do not, I asked and my guide, one guide said the three words to me, doesn’t matter. I’m like, Oh, that means it’s going to be an explanation. I will not understand. Um, that will be eventually, I believe that will be eventually, I also believe eventually that limbs will be able to be replaced by

Kristin Taylor: Yeah, I’ve heard limbs and teeth and regrown. I mean, that’s through that gene editing. That’s exactly

David Hanzel: It’s coming. Yeah, it’s

Kristin Taylor: bringing up. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I feel like I

David Hanzel: already experimented and stuff.

Kristin Taylor: Okay. I have another question for you, and I feel like [00:38:00] I already know the answer to it, but I’m just going to ask it nonetheless, which is, and this is one of Stephen Schwartz’s biggest fears.

He said, you know, with all of this gene editing. That we could have this new emergence of a human race that is far superior in intelligence, in attractiveness, in athleticism, right? Basically making, um, this superior race and that it would in some way compound racism.

David Hanzel: Um, if that were to happen, yeah, it wouldn’t be good. People always think, there, there will be a part, it’s not 20 years from now, it’s a little later than that. There will be, there does feel to be a part, and I’m going off other systems that had been here before. Um, I’m looking into the next world over that is [00:39:00] just like our world, that would be going through something different.

So if I look through that. It looks to me like it started, they started it here. It started with, um, us editing out, um, traits that we didn’t like about people. So people decided, so if we had a persi particular scientist, let’s say, or a sect of scientists who say that aliens hadn’t got here yet and we’re still on our religious kick. They would say, well, We don’t like gay people, so we, we found the gene, and your, your kid has the gay gene. So, you wanna keep him or what? You know, and that’s gonna be, that’s where it would go to. But the world is already messing itself up on that one. Because now we have a lot of people who are saying, Oh, we want everybody has to live. So now they want, um, Uh, now everybody, they don’t want to [00:40:00] be pro choice, they want to be pro life. Well, if you’re pro life, and we decide that we’re going to keep all those, what do you guys, yeah.

Kristin Taylor: That means that the logic doesn’t follow, it’s really picking and

David Hanzel: It does, and that’s,

Kristin Taylor: it, here is where I’m not going to apply it, there’s going to be choice here and

David Hanzel: why that

Kristin Taylor: control here, yeah,

David Hanzel: That’s why that stopped already. Remember that started a couple, it was a couple years ago They talked about oh if we can identify the gene we can or we can see if your kid’s gonna have Down syndrome ahead of Time and all that. Now if we can see diseases ahead of time Which I believe we will be able to do that and I do believe that they’ll able to correct the disease while the baby is still in utero

Kristin Taylor: utero, yeah.

David Hanzel: Yeah, I think that would be a beautiful thing

Kristin Taylor: It would be a beautiful thing to eliminate so much or minimize so much human suffering. So back to this question, what I’m hearing you say is like, yes, there’s going to be the capability. And it depends on what track we go down to create this superior human [00:41:00] race, however that is deemed.

But, you know, people who are not going to be falling susceptible to certain diseases, they’re highly intelligent, they have particular characteristics that are considered attractive, or whatever that may be. Those people could then be very, very powerful. What I’m hearing you say is that could… But it goes back to starting with the person and having a more elevated spiritual consciousness so that there is, um, more compassion and wisdom to help to avoid that,

David Hanzel: Yeah, if we go the spiritual way If we go the spiritual way, not the religious way, not the non religious way, not the atheist way, but the spiritual way, and the spiritual to me basically means the spirit moves on, the soul moves on. That’s what spiritual is. Okay? We all have that belief. Um, if we stay in that, it won’t matter what anybody looks like.

They won’t want to try to fix anybody’s looks, but they will want to try to fix, [00:42:00] um, disease. Now, sometimes disease needs to be fixed by… Changing appearance in certain people. Cause some different diseases change things about us.

Kristin Taylor: like burn victims. Right? Like if someone has been burned, if you can find something to help them regrow skin rather than graphene.

David Hanzel: Exactly. And I think stuff like that will be in the future. And I also believe that stuff like burn victims won’t even be a thing. I mean there’s a lot of things that are happening now at some point will not be a thing. Okay. We won’t. Look it, we used to get a cut when we were in our twenties and die from You know, and, and die from an infection years and years ago.

And now we don’t, now we get a cut in there. You just run to the store and throw Bactine on it. It’s going to be the same thing for all these other diseases. Oh, I got severely burned. Well, come on over to this house and let’s fix you up. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You’re done.

Kristin Taylor: Yeah,

David Hanzel: I mean, that would be nice. And, and

Kristin Taylor: That would be nice. So that’s

David Hanzel: Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s [00:43:00] not just a pipe dream. It is something that could happen and I believe stuff like that will happen because I do believe, like I said, there’s a lot of stuff that is developed right now and there’s a lot of technology that is known and it’s being filtered down to us. You know, um, I, the whole thing about, I don’t think people should worry.

Right now at this moment and like you said he feared that in the distance. We would be doing this stuff Well, there’s no need to fear it. You just look at it and go Do you think this would be of service to humanity or do you think this would go against humanity? And if you think I would go against humanity, there you go Then it’s not if we’re all in that mindset or most of us are in that mindset Then it won’t happen because no one’s gonna produce it if we fear something,

Kristin Taylor: um,

David Hanzel: if we fear something, there’s going to be a human being that [00:44:00] goes, I know how to regain power again.

Kristin Taylor: That’s exactly, I know, I know. So this is all really predicated on Um, the masses being able to get into greater alignment with love consciousness. And the optimist in me says, Oh, that will be amazing. Should we be able to do that? But it’s hard to look around where we are right now and feel very optimistic.

David Hanzel: Okay, I, and I get that. And this is what I’ve been going through lately and all the things that I’ve been going through. I’ve been, um, as you know, there’s a huge awareness shift coming up. So a lot of people are going bonkers right now. It’s because they’re coming aware and it’s really funny is I feel bad for the people who are Who are inherently evil right now and they’re coming and they’re getting awareness in and they’re like wait.

No, what is this? And they’re like wait, I feel better what happened Most of this stuff that we’re all talking about the bad stuff in in our trajectory how we are thinking we [00:45:00] are not going to See we are okay. We are doing better. We are doing better Here’s what I would love to tell the audience, and my guide said this to me, it was just last week, I had a, I had a big talk on it, I did. We still have to remember that a large percentage of our information only coming from a small amount of sources. So they are telling us what they want us to hear and not giving us options for everything. So, it’s kind of like, okay, I see bad stuff happening, but I also see really good stuff happening.

I still see really good stuff happening and that’s what I focus on. If you can focus on that good stuff happening and help it to keep happening, that is what the direction we’re going to go. But if we concentrate on the bad crap all the time and just [00:46:00] sit back every night and go, well, what’s the sense in that?

The whole world’s going to hell in a handbag. They’re going to take over everything in the area. You’re talking like, you know, March from Minnesota, all upset about stuff. While your husband goes bowling, you’re, you’re going to end up in that world.

Kristin Taylor: Okay.

David Hanzel: get the world we deserve. So. Whatever world you believe you deserve is the world that you eventually are going to have.

And I have faith

Kristin Taylor: back down? Yes. Mmm.

David Hanzel: Yeah, I have faith in humanity and, um, Ariel had said that to me over and over. Ariel’s the archangel guide that I talk to. She always tells me, as hard as it is, try to find you and God in everyone you see. Because it’s there. Sometimes it’s just real deep. And she said, that’s why we’re bringing it out.

And in order for that to come out from everybody, all that crap in front of it has to go out into the air someplace. You know what I’m saying? So it has to be done. We’re in the part of the [00:47:00] world where the world was wounded, and it got infected, and now somebody ripped off the band aid. And

Kristin Taylor: it goes, yeah, I love that. It goes back to, um, I have another recurring guest. Her name is Christina Brinkley and she did a beautiful show where she talked about, you know, we’re here for a reason to bear witness to a lot of these things, to learn how to metabolize our emotions, but we also have to clear our emotions.

We can’t just, it’s like she talked about, you can’t just like have someone come in and clean your house once a year. If you didn’t ever dust or ever vacuum or ever do the dishes, all these emotions and negativity would pile up. You have to learn how to, and she gave some tools, clear that emotion so that we can get back to, yes, we can get back to a place of integrity of being able to say, I’m going to look for the God and love in you because it is there.

A lot of us are laden with heavy, painful emotions. But. We signed up for this and part of that is the responsibility to say if I chose to be here I [00:48:00] have to also take responsibility for my own healing so that I can be part of making a positive impact and difference towards this future we want to Collaborate on creating together

David Hanzel: If we can stop looking at every little thing with judgment, and that is the biggest thing. It’s, it’s funny, judgment isn’t, you know, don’t make judgment a bad word. But, Every time we see something, we judge it. Like, oh, that person didn’t do that right. I don’t like it. I’m going to judge it. That’s a bad thing.

And then we get enough people to say it’s a bad thing. And then it becomes a bad thing. And that’s just how it goes. We can’t do that. Sometimes, like for me, in my work or how I’ve been taught and think, you know, I have to say, thank God I died and came back. Because now my perspective on things is, I don’t look at it and make a judgment.

I observe it. And that’s why when they started showing me the stuff about sages and all that, they’re like, this is what you do. You go [00:49:00] from life to life and you observe everything and you figure out, how can I get, make this better? he said, that’s what you’re constantly thinking. How can I make it better?

Not like, oh, this is getting worse. Well, we know it’s getting worse. How can you make it better?

Kristin Taylor: Well, yeah, I love that and that really connects to what our soul’s missions are and getting more connected with our own higher sense, our own higher selves to be able to say, what unique gifts can I impart on the world that will help to make it better? And maybe someone is an incredible athlete and they inspire people or they’re a writer or a singer or a doctor or a mother or parent or you know, whatever that is that they feel called to do, where they’re in their like lane of connection.

David Hanzel: Yeah. People don’t realize it. But it really is possible to change your state of emotion at any point.

Kristin Taylor: Mm hmm. Yes.

David Hanzel: are harder than others, but it can be done. And I argued with [00:50:00] my guides, and I said, No, I was, I remember one day I was sad, and they’re like, No, smile right now. And I’m like, No! I’m sad!

I’m angry! I’m sad! I walked around this house, and they said, Well, then be angry and sad, and when you’re done, smile, okay? And I walked around this house, I was dissin that, and I started laughing at that. I’m like, what do you mean smile? How’s that gonna change anything? And I said, I, anyway, I ended up finding myself having this lovely conversation and laughing my butt off, thinking that I’m such a dork for getting so angry. And, and it’s, so we can change these things. We just have to realize that, I, I think people forget that they’re more powerful than they know. But we’re taught, but we’re not taught that. We’re taught that we’re

Kristin Taylor: No, we’re not.

David Hanzel: who can’t do anything. And

Kristin Taylor: yeah. And that our power is just, yeah. The power is in the, you know, it’s the game of capitalism. Like, I will only win if someone loses.

David Hanzel: Yeah, and that’s not true. You know what? When you [00:51:00] realize you will win if somebody else wins. I always say, I’ve, if, I, I, I’ll, I’ll, I’ve gone out before with my mom and we weren’t running around. I will spend the entire day consciously opening the door for everybody. And it’s so fun to watch them walk in, and they’re like, Thank you.

I’m like, You are so welcome. And we just, and it, you just, all of a sudden you get all these happy people. From one stupid little thing, opening a door for someone. I tell people, they think that changing the world is so hard, but no, it starts with one little gesture, and then it passes on, and that one little gesture, at one day, will become this grand, beautiful thing.

And this will be a perfect place to be. You know?

Kristin Taylor: I love that. I love that. So time goes by so quickly as it always does. Is there any last thing that your guides are saying? You didn’t say this or tell them this.

David Hanzel: Um, If you’re fighting for something in this life, if you’re fighting for a cause [00:52:00]or something, they said fight for it like Like you mean it, they said fight for it and win, uh, don’t take anything less. So that’s for the people fighting. For the people who are not fighting, they said there’s no sense in you disturbing the people fighting.

Let them do what they do and you go about your business. Um, thank you. What he’s saying in a sense is if you are somebody who’s just at home complaining about politics all day long and making life literal for anybody and not doing anything about it, then you should shut up.

Kristin Taylor: Hmm.

David Hanzel: if, if you say, uh, I, I really feel something’s wrong.

I really feel like I want to get up and help this cause then get up and help that cause. But if you just sit back and complain and all you’re doing, you’re just, you’re just being a cheerleader of doom and gloom. And that is my biggest thing too. There’s a lot of doom and gloom psychics and mediums out there and spiritual

Kristin Taylor: know! Oh my gosh! Yes!

David Hanzel: happened? Yeah, everything is a bad thing. Everything is fear. Yeah.

Kristin Taylor: And [00:53:00] it’s gonna get worse. Everything is about to get worse. Buckle up folks. Yeah, yeah, that’s

David Hanzel: But it’s gonna get better then. Yeah. It’s gonna

Kristin Taylor: All right, well. It will get good. I believe that it will get good. Thank you so much.

David Hanzel: You’re welcome. Thank you for having

Kristin Taylor: you on.

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