Kristin
Hello, and welcome to this week’s this week’s episode, how I made it through. And today, our guest is David hop, and he and I are already talking and we’re having just such a fascinating conversation. I’m really excited for what he is bringing forth. I’m actually going to do my best to stay out of the way and let his message come through. So David handed it over to you to share who you are and what your message is and what informs your message is.

So handing it to you.

David
Okay. As you said, my name is David Cobb. I was a film and television producer, a professional athlete. I had an incredible life to the majority of my adulthood. But as a very young boy, I was able to talk to the other side.

I had visits from my grandfather when I was 5 years old after he passed. And I had the ability to see the other side. And and I sort of kept it at bay. And about a dozen years ago, I had a series of near death experiences with a group of ancient Native American ministers that indoctrinated me and gave me basically not just a reason to continue to live, but also an understanding of why we’re here. And they had a very specific message to give everyone, which is the book that I ended up writing.

Called the handbook. And it is really just a simple little handbook that you can open up each and every day. To give a connection to ancient wisdom and to connect us really to the frequency and the understanding that we’re supposed to be living on. What’s happened is that we’ve taken our mind and we’ve closed it down to this idea that we just live once and we got 1 roll of the dice, And whatever really happens happens, and it is so far away from the truth that if you stay within that understanding, you actually subtract yourself from all of the power and all of the messages that the universe would try to give you. So what I had explained to you before is each time that I do 1 of these, I sort of get an understanding from the ancients about what is the concept or what is that they wanna convey in this individual interviewer podcast.

And for them, it was a focus on the understanding the dynamics of reincarnation into our everyday present lives. It’s just something that we have abandoned completely trying to play this game of. You only live once, and no big deal. It just goes on and yet every single thing that happens to us is connected and connects back to reincarnation. Now, Go ahead.

Kristin
Well, yeah. So I was saying that is a very timely 1 for me in particular just for some things that are up in my life and exploring my own past lives. And those of people I love. For those who might be tuning in for the first time, I’m assuming if they’re tuning into the show, reincarnation is not a new concept. But for some context, how often have we typically speaking reincarnated?

How many times? Anything you can share about that?

David
Yeah. There’s a million different paths. We can go for many, many hours, but the simplest, I would say, 1 of the teachings that they had given to me is that they tried to explain to me that if you took all of the lifetimes that you had and you had a little balloon for each lifetime. You were a farmer once. You were a doctor once.

Right? And you put them into a larger balloon. You would have 1 large balloon with 50 little mini balloons inside. That is your soul. That is who you are.

You had those 50 different lifetimes. Now, what happens when we choose to incarnate? Is they will take 2 or 3 of those previous lifetimes, the 1 that was a farmer, the 1 that was a doctor, maybe the 1 was a nurse. And we bring them back into a new incarnation. With those 3 lifetime’s remittances, and karma.

And the purpose is to then refine those 3 lifetimes that still have lessons left to be learned. Now, that explains why someone that 5 years old can be a concert pianist. Because 1 of their previous lifetimes, they were concert pianists. And that’s 1 of the lifetimes they’re reenacting in this incarnation to better The whole purpose of incarnation is to better ourselves, is to refine ourselves to become higher within the spiritual understanding. And by doing that is we finished the lessons and the experiences that were unfinished from previous lifetimes.

Kristin
And that’s karma.

David
That is karma. But karma is both positive and negative, and karma is both earth karma and soul karma. Right? The earth karma is if you cut somebody off as you’re driving through traffic, someone cuts you off. Real simple stuff back and forth on a very sort of pedestrian level.

Soul Carma is that you agree in a previous lifetime to live another lifetime with another person. Or another purpose or an and then that ends up showing up in the incarnation in a much larger way. Part of this understanding, I can only give it to you sort of as an example. I had had my first marriage was with a woman that I was very attracted to, very connected to. But within 6 months of always being together, we would basically wanna kill each other.

Mhmm. And we couldn’t quite understand it. And the connection was so deep and so incredible. Right?

Kristin
Yeah.

David
And yet the dynamic was so destructive.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
And modern psychology and such will just say, well, you have these issues and those issues. And it wasn’t until many years later as I started to go through my own teachings, and they started to connect all of my experiences and explain to me what had happened. That I truly understood what had happened. My first wife and I had had shared together a previous life in the 1500. And we were a brother and sister.

And our parents were had passed very early and they had gone, you know, back then, easy to get a communicable disease, didn’t live very long. And we ended up sort of raising each other. And we had an incredible close relationship, but never intimate, never past being brother and sister. Mhmm. And so we actually as souls agreed to do it again.

But in furtherance of our previous relationship, take it to the point that we weren’t able to experience before. And so when I met her in this lifetime, it was an immediate connection within 24 hours we moved in together, I mean, just we knew it. And yet, it wasn’t meant to be forever. Yeah. It wasn’t right.

And this is where we all get confused. You’re like, well, how can you have this incredible intensity? How can you have this incredible connection? And yet it’s not meant to be in the present? Yeah.

It’s not just economists. It doesn’t make any sense.

Kristin
Right.

David
And the the second part of that was that she was incredibly gifted in terms of helping me in that previous lifetime and and furthering me and helping me, you know, succeed. And so not only did I agree to come back again and share an intimate relationship with her, but I promised to help her in this lifetime the way she had helped to me. And when I did that, when I helped her, and we then had the intimate relationship. Our relationship was actually over.

Kristin
You completed what you came to do.

David
Correct. And that’s what we don’t understand about reincarnation is that these connections that we run into are so deep and so powerful And we tried to analyze them and figure them out and yet you have to get to the core of why you have this connection with this person. And what is the purpose of that connection?

Kristin
Yeah. And I feel like that’s what we’re all missing, and then we’ll go to psychotherapy, and we’re talking about our childhoods and how to communicate that.

David
Blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Kristin
How to push it and push it and push it and so many of us, it’s interesting to people I love dearly our intoxic relationships that have made them, and I know you know a lot about this. So sick, but I worry they’re going to have premature deaths. Because they’re not willing to walk away from the relationship with their lesson.

David
Correct. Correct. Not willing to move on.

Kristin
Yes.

David
And so there are no new experiences to be had. If you don’t finish this, you can’t go to the next. And and you’re exactly right. That’s exactly what illness is. It is the inability to get past and experience.

Kristin
So I know you wanna talk about reincarnation and and your you didn’t call them guides, and I didn’t write it down. How do you refer to the ancients?

David
The ancients. Yeah.

Kristin
The ancients. Okay. The question I have is around children, babies who get sick.

David
Mhmm.

Kristin
How does that connect because and you can share this now, and I hope that you do, that illness is really a communication. That we are living out of alignment Correct. We need to pay attention and correct that misalignment.

David
Well, it demands change.

Kristin
DEMands change.

David
Illness demands change. And illness not will not go away until you agree to the change. So I make over a 120 different natural remedies. And when I get sick, I do not get an intuition of to take any of them. The first thing I get is to stay silent for a number of days until I get the message of what it is that created the imbalance, what I have to do to agree to get back on track And only then, do I have an intuition of a physical remedy that I could start taking, that would start helping me physically heal?

Kristin
And so it’s the remedy that you have meditated on so that you can have a deep connection to knowing why

David
It’s the energetic acknowledgment.

Kristin
The energetic acknowledgment, and it wakes you up to your life that what needs to change, that you weren’t changing.

David
Points out the imbalance, exactly what you described. Right? So you suddenly start to drink a little too much. You start to eat bad food a little bit too much. You start tonight, exercise.

And you do it for a couple of months, and suddenly you get sick.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
So we reach for a drug or something to stop us from being sick, but instead, if we were to simply be silent, and sort of wallow in our illness for a few hours. We would, out of nowhere, have an intuition that says You have to change this. You have to go back to your normal diet. You have to go it happened to me really just 6 months ago. I hadn’t gotten sick and years.

And I was down for a number of days. Mhmm. And it had to do with my attitude actually. I had started to get a little bit frustrated And I started to cast some negative dispersions. Some of them something would happen, and I would go, oh, that’s stupid.

And I started to condemn things. Just out of normal frustration. Yeah. And that made me sick. Because holding that negative energy, at least in my body now, not good.

Can’t have anything negative near me.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
So as I’m sick, I think, well, do I take silver? Do I take 1 of my honeys? Do I take Nothing. I my intuition says nothing. So I stay in bed for about a day, and at the end of the day, I’m about to get up to do something, and it hits, man.

Think of what you’ve been doing. The last couple of months, you started to get condemning of things. Light bulb went off. I said, alright. I will go back into balance.

I agree to not be negative. I agree to not condemn. The moment I made that statement, I thought, oh, there’s this 1 silver that I make, and if I put it right here in this spot and within 2 hours, I would say,

Kristin
Okay.

David
So it’s that no matter what the remedy is, it won’t work until you do the spiritual work first. The physical remedy won’t even show up as a possibility in your mind or in your possibility. That’s why cancer patients don’t get cured. That’s why all these things keep coming back because we don’t deal with the underlying spiritual problem.

Kristin
You know what’s interesting? We have a frequent guest, and she does soul journey with people. She goes into the akashic records, and she downloads a lot of information, and she calls it emotion. She’s not the only 1, but she calls it emotional clearing to say, you wouldn’t, you know, have someone come and clean your house. And then go for months months months months and months and never put away the dishes, never dust, never vacuum.

She said, it’s our responsibility to recognize all our thoughts and our feelings are beliefs, especially when they’re negative, painful. They start to, I call it, you know, issues that get stuck in the tissues. Like, they energetically get lost

David
in the ethereal body.

Kristin
In the ethereal body and in the physical body, if we’re not Yes. Gathering.

David
Logs the physical body.

Kristin
Yes. So she has some exercises to daily. She says it’s your responsibility. You need to clear them spiritually

David
Sure.

Kristin
So that you are not weighed down by toxins on, you know, spiritual, emotional, psychological, physical level.

David
So that manifest. The big illnesses come in when we have a traumatic event, a serious event that we really cannot understand.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
And we take it and shove it into the ethereal body, telling ourselves, we’ll come back to it when we can handle it. Or when we can figure it out better.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
Well, that impregnated experience, energetically an ethereal body, left unchecked, as you described, for many months, starts to affect the physical functions where it is physically. Heart, throat, wherever you stick it, and then it starts to manifest in the physical illness.

Kristin
Okay. This is so fascinating. So I’m imagining that our listeners are saying, how does he know this? He mentioned NDA’s near death experiences. Can you go back a bit more to the origin to share when you started.

I know you from a young age, you could talk to the dead. Mhmm. But when did this really like, what was the catalyst for this knowing that you’re describing? And what was it?

David
So 12, 13 years ago, I well, 18 years ago, I bought some land in Northern Arizona, a few 100 acres, with the idea ever since I was very young to create what I thought would be a healing center. Had no idea what it meant, the definition thereof. I just knew. And so I had looked all over the country, you know, as a Entertainment guy. I was traveling 100,000 miles a year.

So look here, look there. Took me 10 years, and I found this sacred spot in Northern Arizona. Within a year of finding this sacred land and buying it, I became violently ill. And incurably violently allergic to all western medicine. Just give me aspirin, and I’m in the hospital.

Kristin
Wow.

David
Bleeding internally.

Kristin
God.

David
And after a year of trying to heal myself naturally, I had this experience where I was up in the middle of the night. I couldn’t sleep for more than 3 or 4 hours because my blood was So toxic that it would back up, and so you’d have to walk every 3 or 4 hours just to be able to sleep again. That’s about 2 o’clock in the morning, and I’m walking in in to look alike in Southern California at night. And I I see on the corner of my eye, this is Native American. Step out of the bushes from Across the Street.

And I’m thinking, yeah, I saw that. No, I’m not looking over. I want nothing to do with this. And I get about 2 more steps forward and I can feel. He’s right there.

And I turn and sure enough, he’s standing right next me. And he looks at me and he says, you do know what’s happening, don’t you? And I I said no. I I know I’m dying and I’m sick of the crap, and I want But And he cut me off, and he said, no. We’re making you into a shaman.

I said, shaman. I don’t even know. Boom. Here’s God. So I don’t even know what hell a showman is.

So if I went home at 1 o’clock in the morning, I looked it up. I went mile. That’s not what I’m interested in. And didn’t pay attention to it and went another couple of years healing myself starting to make medicine. And then it happened where I woke up.

It was midnight at New Year’s Eve 13 years ago. And this 10 foot tall, ancient spirit was standing at the foot of my bed. And all he did was stretch his hand out to me. And I thought, because I’ve been seeing, you know, the dead my whole life. I thought, god, thank god, I got high ceilings.

This guy will not fit in here at all. Right?

Kristin
That’s funny.

David
Completely right. Sacral sync. I mean, no respect whatsoever.

Kristin
Oh god.

David
And well, and I’ve been sick so many times now in these few years and trying to figure out. And and he just re he just reached his hand forward again. And and he said, look, I’m gonna come back to you in a few days, and I will tell you everything that we’re going to do and teach you on blah blah blah. And Boom. He’s got And I thought, well, that was pretty crazy.

I went back to sleep. 4 hours later, I woke up. I was sicker than a dog. It was coming out everywhere. And for the next 10 days, I thought for sure that was it.

Wasn’t gonna make it. And I just started to heal That night, he showed up again. And he’s standing at the foot of my bed, 1 o’clock in the morning. I just went, No. No.

No. No. No. No. No.

You you go away. Last time you were here, I’m just starting the you. And he reached his hand out again, and I knew there was no way. So I touched his hand and immediately we started flying. And we flew back to my property.

And we landed just like in cartoons where you just kind of and you’re running. And I remember walking with him that first day saying, what are we doing here? And he and he explained to me that this was sacred land, And what I had done in buying this land is I had created an entrance into their sacred world. And if I was going to be the preveyor of this land, if I was gonna be the shepherd of this land, I was going to be made 1 of them. And that’s what I went to for the next 13 nights.

Every night, he came, stretched his hand out. We would fly up north. And he would teach me. He would give me these lessons for hours at a time and show me start to make medicine and connect things. And at the end of 13 days, he came to me and said, look, I’ve given you a chapter of a book every night.

I want you to write. I’ve given you all these teachings for me to come down to this level and even communicate with you. Is a once in a 1,000,000 opportunity. I will never be able to do it again. You will never see me again.

And he was gone. But there were 11 other ancient natives with him at the time. It was a circle of of actually 13 that I then joined. And so the other 11 is what I join on a regular basis and have communications with them, but not father, not the large entity. So with that, they gave me my marching orders because I 1 night took my rights, and they list them.

They said, we want you to write this book. We want you to protect ancient plants. The earth is going to go through an incredible upheaval. And we have unfortunately the risk of losing some of the most important medicinal plants that exist on this planet. We want you to build this farm protecting those plants.

And then we want you to have other people around the world learn how to make their own natural medicine from these plants that you are protecting. And they can start their own little natural healing centers around the world. And no matter what happens in the world, when pharmaceutical drugs crash, When all of these things go away, we still have our natural medicine for our population.

Kristin
What a responsibility, man?

David
Well, so we go back to the beginning where you were like, why did I have trepidation in coming out?

Kristin
Yeah.

David
Who wants to come out here and say, oh, by the way, talk to people.

Kristin
Right.

David
And he said,

Kristin
no. And you are very steeped into, you know, western culture with this very claimed career and reputation. And here you are going, hi, everyone. Little bit of a divergence.

David
Yeah. Small crazy. Small, crazy. So I it happened now 5 more times that I went through these 13 day experience and father never came again, but the ancients would come en masse, and they would start to connect things in my life and teach me. So when we talk about that previous lifetime experience I had with the first wife, they taught me all of that.

They said, look. You see what happened here? Do you see what happened here? This is the reason that it happened. So they continued to give this to me, but their main thrust was for me to write the handbook.

And to get it to the public. And the reason that was is because much like, I don’t know if you’ve if you’ve read illusions by Richard Buck,

Kristin
came

David
of life and how to play it by Florence Scholeshen. Right? They said the handbook is identical to those other 2 books. They are written by Masters. I just channeled it.

I didn’t write it. It’s channeled by masters and it’s written in such a way that every time that you read it, you will get a different message. You can read the same sentence, the same paragraph every day, and it will mean something to you different every day. I call them magical windows. And what they are is they’re able to take Masters are able to take simple words and put them together.

And create opportunities of spiritual enhancement. Right? And you kinda go, well, what? For instance, we take 4 words. Watch the dog run.

Hit your brain much? Not really. How about re incarnation is the most important thing. Now your brain starts to think, the same just 4 words, 2 4 words next to each other, 1 will make you think for 2 hours, 1 doesn’t make you think at all. That’s what they understand words can do.

When they’re put together in a simplified form, they become multidimensional and multipurposeful. And if people can read them each day, they can connect to that frequency that keeps them on their path and keeps them in balance. If you simply took the handbook, illusions, game of life, and how to play it. Everyday just read 1 paragraph. Your life would change drastically in simply a week.

Because you would connect to the frequency and the way of thinking that takes you out of negativity, that takes you out of all these commonalities that you have.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
We’re not being instilled with the right vibration of thought. You watched television. It’s a lower form. You read things. It’s a lower form.

You talk to people. All they care about is their Mercedes broke, and they can’t get it fixed properly. Is all lower forms of thinking.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
When you connect to the higher thoughts of thinking, like simply have compassion for everything that lives. Suddenly, you start reacting completely different to everything and everyone.

Kristin
Mhmm.

David
But what they’ve taught me in the last just year is that we think that ancient wisdom is written down in a book somewhere. It’s not. Ancient wisdom is in a Ethereal Energy. So life force is a force. It’s not a book.

So when you’re given ancient wisdom, it doesn’t come in a book. It comes in an energetic force. So when they would have me channel, they would simply channel the energy into me, and I could see the words coming into me like a typewriter. Wow. And then I would have to wake up, run down, and just write it out, write it out, write it out, and then I could go back to sleep.

Kristin
So this higher vibration means it doesn’t take much to look around and see there’s so much low vibrational thinking feeling and believing happening, this sort of hypnosis of greed and anger and judgment and all all those things. Right?

David
Well, business. All individualism.

Kristin
Yeah. Individualism. Rather than recognizing that we are all divinely connected in her life.

David
And only a community can survive.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
Only a community survival. And so when I go back to the original concept about reincarnation reincarnation having so much impact on all of our thought. If you remember that this is only 1 of 50 lifetimes that you’ve lived, you will react differently to every single thing in your life. The next 24 hours. Yeah.

When you look at a child that’s 6, you don’t think he’s only 6. You think, well, he’s 6 this lifetime. But what did he do in the previous times, and you’ll actually treat him differently.

Kristin
Right.

David
You’ll recognize that a tree is completely alive and growing and talking. You’ll stop for a moment and ask him how he’s doing. Sounds crazy. That is when you are actually I I call it holding hands with the universe.

Kristin
I love that.

David
When you’re actually connected to everything around you, When you do that, all of your actions and reactions will change.

Kristin
Yes.

David
And you say, well, what shifted it? It is a vibration that shifts it. It is a frequency that shifts it.

Kristin
Okay. So I have 2 questions because I love that and I’ve experienced that. For me, it can be hard to sustain.

David
Correct.

Kristin
Right? And so 2 questions come up. 1 is about why do we come here in this sense of forgetting that our essence really is love, but we can get so seduced by this low vibrational thinking feeling and believing.

David
Right.

Kristin
And then also

David
Well, it’s done.

Kristin
What so stay stay there, and then I’m gonna ask you something else.

David
So when you take those 3 of your 50 lifetimes, and you come into this incarnation, you don’t in this body remember the other 47.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
So you have purposely dumbed yourself down.

Kristin
Yeah. I mean, we don’t remember the the 3. I mean, so many people are like, this

David
is 90ips. Don’t remember.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
So you have dumbed yourself down. Why? So that you will be present in this experience. Right? You agree to come into this lifetime to learn humility, and you bring back a couple of lifetimes with you that were very humbling.

Viewer, a a maid, a waiter, whatever it may have been. Right? A servant. But you can remember a previous lifetime when you were queen. And you know doesn’t have to be this way.

You’re not gonna participate. You’re not gonna participate at all. By having a limited perspective and a limited memory, it forces you into just concentrating on the mission you came to do. The only way that you can experience this level is with a limited perspective. Sounds strange, but that’s how you connect to it.

Again, if you had all 50 lifetimes memory, you wouldn’t have the same perspective, and you wouldn’t be able to learn from it. And some of it is comic. Yeah. You know, the the 1st 18 years in my life, my parents were incredibly bombastic. Follows a terrible alcoholic, physically abusive, all of these terrible things.

Now, why Did I live 18 years of such torture and madness? Well, my direct previous lifetime In the forties, I was actually a film and television producer. And I was not a nice guy. I had abused my power and my ability. And so I came right back into this lifetime with that lifetime, and I suffered exactly what was done through me for 18 years, what I had done to others previously.

Kristin
Health portrayed it.

David
So that I could Not just finished the karma, but learn from my mistakes, learn from what I had done to others so that I would not do it again.

Kristin
And it feels so so I’m being a bit of a I just kept curious. So I understand that in the abstract. And yet it feels like so many people don’t learn, and they go to the wrong sources. So they go to the doctor. They go to the psychiatrist.

They go, and they’re getting information that may be well intentioned, maybe not. And they’re getting it’s incomplete, and it’s not helping them to learn what they are here to learn.

David
Of course.

Kristin
Right?

David
Of course.

Kristin
So, of course, so then we’re kind of stuck in these patterns like, you know, a hamster on a wheel feeling.

David
We have been.

Kristin
We have been. We have been. And now there’s this sort of some people call it an awakening k. A shift

David
Correct.

Kristin
Say more about that if you would.

David
Well, that comes from the planetary influences, and I don’t wanna go too deep into it, but very simply, what the Mayans understood is that every 52,000 years, Our solar system in the universe does a complete circle and comes back to its original point. That’s how long it takes for our solar system to travel around the circumference of the universe because everything’s moving. Moving around us, we’re moving around the universe. Every 52,000 years, we come back to the same point we started. What we don’t understand is that as we move through the universe, there are planets, solar systems, and other galaxies that influence us differently every 20, 30, 40, 50 years.

In the last 2000 years, We were in a part of the galaxy where there was nothing else around us. No other galaxies, no other planets. That’s why we would believe there was only 11 planets. We couldn’t see anything. See right?

In 2012, what the minds understood is that we were gonna come back into a part of the universe where suddenly the rest of it all showed up again. All the rest of the planets and galaxies, but all of their energy and frequency of higher wisdom would start to hit us again, would start to permeate the planet and us as a species.

Kristin
Got it.

David
So we are finally back in a position in the inner universe that we actually start to accept the light again. There’s no better way to describe it.

Kristin
Right.

David
Right. Because 7000 BC the Atlanteans were completely evolved.

Kristin
I was hoping

David
And the Egyptians were sort of a little de evolved from them the Greeks a little from them and right at 0 when the Romans boom. We moved into the darkness. And if you look at healing, the Greeks had a sleption centers. 300 healing centers around ancient Greece on sacred land you would go for 4 to 6 days, music, learn how to make herbs, take baths, and on the night of your healing, you would go down into the sacred sleep chambers. And then a physician would attend you through the night, and you would speak to your soul to hear how to heal yourself.

That was the principal healing technique for 400 years in Greece. Until Eristop. They didn’t even do Autopsies anymore. They said the soul has left. It’s a waste of time.

Right. Aristotle brought it back. He said, no. No. No.

No. No. No. The soul stuff. He got rid of all of Plato’s understanding of soul healing.

We went back to Autopsies, and we went back to pretending we’re just a physical body that only lives once.

Kristin
Yeah. This materialism.

David
Complete the evolution. But because our planet no longer was getting the frequency and the energies of the higher wiz from the rest of the universe. It really was a dark ages in a dark corner. So with that, We can tell since 2012 how things have shifted, how things have started to illuminate, wake people up. But they’ve also created this huge division, which is what the a the ancients talked about.

Kristin
Yes.

David
You were either left or right. There’s no middle anymore.

Kristin
Right. Yeah.

David
You’re either working on evolving or you’re working on stealing and climbing again. There’s no. Right? And that is because we are going to you know, Mother Earth is is about ready to kick us off.

Kristin
Okay. I’m hearing it called a reset.

David
You sure, but it really is an armageddon and not physically. It is mentally. What do we fight for?

Kristin
So many of my guests have said this.

David
We fight for our thoughts.

Kristin
Yes. Yes. And it’s really of this spiritual, emotional, mental space that we inhabit.

David
Correct. Correct. And the reason that we’ve also declined so much is all this Internet and all this nonsense. We’ve allowed people to go down the wormhole. And disconnect from their own intuition of knowing what’s right and what’s wrong.

Kristin
Right. Well, it’s you know, I I talk about it a lot, but it’s this we’ve got 2 energies. These polarities love and fear. And the wormholes are always directing people towards fear.

David
Fear.

Kristin
Right? But people might be very when you say things like Armageddon that also might feel like doomsday and scary and fearful. I know that’s not what you’re what you’re saying though.

David
No. But We say armageddon because it’s so impactful.

Kristin
Okay.

David
Because they are trying to take our minds. They are trying to really enslave us to whatever it is that they want. Because none of it makes any sense. Yeah. Money and all this it’s all just such nonsense.

It’s hysterical that people pay attention to these things. Yes. But But by keeping us enslaved in that way, we don’t think of the larger things. We don’t think that we have powered to manifest things without money. We don’t think that we have the power to manifest anything.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
If we don’t go to a job and get a piece of paper that then allows us to go to the store to buy the thing that we want, we don’t exist. And do you really think the creator made this plant for that?

Kristin
I know. How does 1 though, but we do need money in the practical sense? How does 1 reconcile and live in this world but helped to elevate towards what the creator wanted in the midst of, you know, I need home and and he’s clothing and Right.

David
And we understand all those things. Mhmm. The greatest thing that they did for me is, this year, I did 6 teen Healing podcast. And each 1 is on a different topic, but all within the same form. And it was pure channeling.

I had no idea it was gonna come out each time. And they came out completely structured. And the first 4, do not pay attention to time, do not have negative thoughts, do not count money, and do not live in the future.

Kristin
That’s really hard, David.

David
I know. I know. I know. I know. But when we talk about being practical, right, when I got out of film school and started as a director, my job as 1st assistant director was to run the sets every day.

12 hours a day, I decided what we shot, when we shot it, ran the entire crew, was responsible for making the movie every single day. Now you think a guy like that would be worried about time. I didn’t wear a watch. Ever. And Anytime someone worked for me for the first time on a movie and didn’t know me, it’s the first thing they talked about.

How can the first day did not have a watch? That’s always responsible for his time. Because I moved into having an intuitive clock.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
Simple. I knew when it was time. Alright. We gotta move on. We can’t we can’t be on this scene anymore.

We gotta move on to the next scene. It was time. So it’s not that you can never look at a clock. It’s that you have to develop your intuitive clock.

Kristin
That makes more sense. Because we live in a world where you’re like, I have appointment at this time, and I have this meeting at this time,

David
and I have

Kristin
to pick my kid up at this time.

David
So Correct.

Kristin
But you’re saying don’t be a slave to it. Tune in. I’ll it’s so funny. I’ll ask my mom. I’ll say, are you hungry?

And she goes, well, what time is it?

David
Correct.

Kristin
And I go, why does that matter? Is your stomach empty?

David
That’s the most exactly right. I’ll give you a a pedantic experience. Right? I was making remedies for a couple of people. And I had a feeling it was getting close to 5 o’clock, which is when the post office closes.

Now, in the past, even a year ago, my logical brain would go to look at the clock and then make a decision what I was gonna do next. He said no. Intuitively, I know I have to stay in this space and finish. And if I’m late, I’m late. I don’t care.

Then I’ll come out tomorrow. It doesn’t really matter. So I finished everything. I’ve got it all boxed up on the 3 orders and I looked at the clock and the clock said it was like 502. And you know what I did?

I drove to the post office because that’s how it felt. It felt like it didn’t matter. So I get to the post office, I drive in, it’s 510, 511, Been closed for 10, 11 minutes. Can’t get in. And I’ve just stopped for a minute in the parking lot, and then I see on the corner of my eye, the gate open up.

And here comes a guy coming out with a big basket that’s coming out to the drive through mailboxes to empty them. And he happens to be the assistant manager, who I know? Sorry. Roll down my window. There you go.

Tom, how are you? He goes, good. What are you doing? I said, well, I’m just trying to drop off packages. He goes, well, can you drop them 3 inches?

Took him out of my car, dropped him in his basket.

Kristin
Okay.

David
The post office was open for me at 5:15. My logical brain would have never allowed that to happen. You see where I’m going?

Kristin
Yes. I see when your Internet went out a little bit, so I lost a little bit of the story, but I’m hearing the the message of the story.

David
If you are a slave to the clock, if you are a slave to thinking about the future, if you are a slave to counting money, you limit all of the other opportunities that could possibly happen.

Kristin
Got it.

David
I wouldn’t have gone to the post office logically because it was closed.

Kristin
Right.

David
But intuitively, they said go, and what happened? There was a guy waiting for me in the parking lot to take my packages. After hours.

Kristin
Because you were tuned into that frequency, you were available to that frequency.

David
With your hands with the universe. Yeah. If you connect everything around you, you get to use everything around you.

Kristin
So how does 1 cultivate the practice of tuning in? What are some of your suggestions? 2.

David
Well, that’s where we go back to those 4. You can’t pay attention to time. You can’t count money. You can’t live in the future, and you can’t have negative thoughts. If you could do that for just 24 hours, your life would change drastically.

Kristin
Alright. So let me ask you this because then there’s some neuroplasticity. It’s just like the habits of, you know,

David
of course.

Kristin
Right? So when? Because you can’t just say, I’m just not gonna have negative thoughts. I’m not gonna count money. I’m not gonna pay attention to time.

David
Correct.

Kristin
When a negative thought shows up, How do you suggest someone responds?

David
So I understand that every thought that you have is a creation.

Kristin
Yes.

David
Right?

Kristin
Yes.

David
Every single thought and that’s the whole purpose of this level of existence is that the mind is actually the projector of the film. What? If you think something, it starts to be created. Yes. Right?

And so when we would teach people a manifestation, we would say, look. Let’s be materialistic. I want a new car. So you think of the new car you envisioned in your head, and you see yourself getting in it and driving away. That’s all you have to do to manifest.

Right? Well, the next day you’d you’d thought, well, maybe that’s not the right car. Well, that thought that started to create itself gets popped. That balloon thought is popped and destroyed. Because you just changed your mind.

So now the universe is waiting for you to manifest something else. So we don’t understand that every time we think something negative, we are actually destroying everything that we are creating. What you can do is the minute you start you think negative. The next day you go, well, maybe that’s not the right car. You stop yourself.

And you say, what level? I had an intuition that this is the car that I should have next. That’s the right car. And see yourself pulling back the negative thought, destroying it being manifested and reiterate no, I wanna make this car happen.

Kristin
So this is in the realm, and I hear this continually tell me if I’m tracking with you that really our imagination. So you would actually see that negative thought. You pull it back. You destroy it. Whatever verb you wanna use.

And then you reclaim this is what I want. Yep. So What’s

David
1 1 1 trick that they told me 1 year was if you can’t think if you can’t stop yourself I’m sorry. If you can’t think positive, just be neutral.

Kristin
This is what I wanted to know

David
because that’s

Kristin
really hard.

David
Neutral.

Kristin
For people. Right. So yeah.

David
You wake up. You’re not feeling that great. You’re like Yeah. I’m I’m happy. Just be neutral.

To say, you know what? I make no judgments today. I make no commitments today. I’m not feeling it today. I’m not happy and warm and fuzzy.

So I’m just gonna lay on the sideline.

Kristin
Because the question that comes up for me is maybe some of that negativity are road signs, something that you need to pay attention to, like that person isn’t treating me well, or this is not the right job, or that are emotions are intel and data that we need to pay attention to. So you don’t wanna just block them. Because why else would would that goes to my second question? Would would it just we have been imbued with this enormous spectrum of different nuanced emotions. They are therefore a reason and sometimes negative emotions like sadness or grief.

It’s part of the human experience. You don’t wanna just block them because that it can be locked in the tissue to get to our earlier point Sure. How do we be in relationship to an option?

David
So first of all, the number 1 rule. No negative thought. Is proper.

Kristin
So if I’m saying, I don’t like Hitler, That is dangerous that those people are doing that to those children. Those are negative thoughts.

David
Well, no. The the negative is that you hate people that follow Hitler. You despise, you condemn them, you wanna do some against them. You wanna stop them. You wanna hurt them back.

Recognizing that Hitler was just another crazy asshole.

Kristin
Mhmm.

David
There’s no negative thought.

Kristin
Okay.

David
Recognition of someone that is

Kristin
The sermonement.

David
Yeah. Recognition of reality is not a negative thought, saying that things happen to me bad all the time is a negative thought.

Kristin
Right.

David
Saying I think I might lose my job can be a negative thought. Right?

Kristin
Okay. So saying or feeling like the children in Hamas Correct. Feeling that is not negativity. It’s just the whole human experience.

David
It is a human experience, but unfortunately, you know, write in my second book about living multiple levels of existence simultaneously.

Kristin
K.

David
So you can connect to the children over there that are being murdered and massacred. And at the same time, if you elevate yourself, you can understand that they’re actually creating a purpose right now.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
Right?

Kristin
Yeah.

David
Are they not teaching the world? Mhmm.

Kristin
And then back to reincarnation.

David
Have they not agreed to sacrifice themselves to teach the world? Yeah. So you say, look, I’m only gonna come into my lifetime for 3 years. But I’m gonna change the world. Now weigh that against some idiot that spent 90 years here, made 1,000,000 of dollars and didn’t help anybody.

Kristin
Right.

David
Whose lifetime is more valuable.

Kristin
Right.

David
My own we had our last dog. We always raise chow chows. We just love Chinese dogs, probably from living there a number of years, but or having 2 lifetimes there.

Kristin
I was wondering if you met in this life or not.

David
2. Yeah. Unfortunately. And our last this is incredible animal. Just his name is Duke, and Anyone that came near him just like bowed down to him.

Right? We walked down the street off the leash. We’d just ignore you if Yeah. Certainly me alone. But beautiful dog.

3 years old, got sick, couldn’t heal him, came in from the outdoors, 1 afternoon, laid down and died, just middle of our bedroom. And it was heartbreaking for his brand new house, brand new life, and and suddenly our dog has died. Really horrendous shook his upside down. But about a month later, he came to me in a dream. And he’s standing there, and I said, you jerk.

What’s the matter with you? Why did you leave? You were the most incredible animal that we ever had of a look. And he starts laughing at me. He’s just laughing at me.

I go, why are you laughing? He goes, you knew who I was when I came to you. I was a warrior dog, from 1000 years years ago. I never live very long. That’s warrior dogs don’t last.

They go. They help. They protect. They live a year, 2 years, 3 years, whatever it is, and then they’re killed in battle. He said, that’s what I normally do.

He said, I gave you 3 years. Never told you I was coming for 50 years.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
He said, did I not change your life? Did I not help you? Did we not have a great time? I said, yeah. He said, What more would you like for me?

Kristin
And that we never really die. So here you are in communicating.

David
Well, communicating. Well, that’s the other part of it. Right? But how this, you know, really connects into the healing part of it is that and I know that you’ve done it. You yourself is that anytime that we have a major illness or an accident, it it is comically induced.

Yeah. And we will not get over it until we explain the why of why it happened.

Kristin
Yeah. Yeah.

David
And that doesn’t come from some I’m just gonna absolutely forgive it. Doesn’t work.

Kristin
That’s what I wanna explore with you, and I’ll be

David
pretty good. I’ll give you the example.

Kristin
Okay.

David
I’m 6 years old, and my father takes me to the dentist. And the dentist says I have 2 cavities, and he walks down under the waiting room, and he tells my father, and my father says, well, that’s BS. He’s a pretty tough guy. And he said we’re gonna teach him a lesson, so drill him without no So I’m in the chair, and he’s drilling, and I’m screaming.

Kristin
The doctor said yes.

David
Yes. This is the sixties. In the chair, screaming, crying. Right? And I can This

Kristin
is terrible.

David
I can see out the corner of my eye, my father, in the waiting room, just calmly reading the magazine, ignoring me. Oh my god. And I said to my brain, I will never forgive you for this. Right? So only 2 years ago, I had this infection continually show up again for the third time in about a 4 year kid in this tooth up here.

Right? I couldn’t figure out what the hell was going on. So I’m in the 2nd days of being ill with it. And I said, alright. I have to take my new teachings because this is somewhat new to me.

Some of this stuff is still new to me in the last few years.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
And I said I’ve gotta take my teaching and just be quiet and see what it is. So I did nothing for about an hour and out of nowhere. I remembered that dental appointment. Hadn’t remembered it in 50 years. And so I called my father forward from the other side.

I hadn’t spoken to him many years also, and he came for it. And before I could even ask the question, why did you do that to me? He says, because I loved you. And I said, oh, you’re an asshole. How can you do that?

What? Wait a minute. You love me. That’s such a cop out. Where does that come from?

You love me. And he very calmly looked at me and said, because I was raised by the stick. And I immediately understood. That he had no other tools to shepherd me as his son Yeah. Other than what was shown to him.

Which is if you hurt me, I’ll stop that behavior.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
That’s how his parents threatened and, you know, took care of him, and that’s all he knew.

Kristin
Yeah.

David
And the minute that I got that, I was able to release this. And within an hour, I came upon a remedy that I had made myself many times and started to use it. And within 3 days, it was gone forever.

Kristin
Okay. I so appreciate that story. Can I share 1 of my stories?

David
Please.

Kristin
And the reason I wanna share it is for the audience who is going, well, I don’t communicate. With a team of ancients, and I don’t know how to communicate with loved ones departed. And I don’t know

David
can show you my credit.

Kristin
Yep. Okay. So I had a cancer diagnosis when I was 27.

David
What’s what they told me? Yeah.

Kristin
Melanoma, and they removed lymph nodes a couple of times from my leg.

David
Right.

Kristin
And now I have lymphodema.

David
Right.

Kristin
And I know I think I need to spend a couple of days. I mean, I’m 53 now. It’s been more than a minute. That I’ve been living with this, and I know that it’s connected around my worthiness, my sense of self love, something with my mother and boundaries.

David
Well, that’s where I stop you. It’s simpler than that.

Kristin
It is. Okay.

David
What was happening when you got the first cancer?

Kristin
When I was in graduate school at the time, And I was starting to have a lot of anxiety. I wasn’t in a very good relationship?

David
Correct. And what happened in that time that you couldn’t solve, that you couldn’t have the answer to why.

Kristin
I don’t know. I was thinking about this.

David
Was relationship that bad was your path in grad school, the wrong path. 1 of those 2 things was killing you?

Kristin
Well, the relationship was bad, and I got out of the relationship.

David
K.

Kristin
The path Graduate school knew I think it was a good path.

David
K. So stay with the relationship. Again, this is intuitive. Don’t use your you keep

Kristin
track of it. My my my intuitiveness was I just wanted to be in a relationship, but he was not the right person for me

David
Okay.

Kristin
At all.

David
Okay. So the only reason why it’s still around is because the lesson that that brought you has not been accepted. And what was the lesson at that time? You were willing to be in a relationship that was wrong just to be in a relationship.

Kristin
Right.

David
And have we moved past that?

Kristin
In certain ways now.

David
Correct. So you see where I’m going. Did you find it?

Kristin
Yes.

David
It’s pretty big.

Kristin
I know it is.

David
You get it though. Right?

Kristin
Yeah.

David
So We’re

Kristin
gonna have to talk offline.

David
Yes. But that’s how easy you can find it. Right?

Kristin
So then if I take action, the lymphedema Mhmm. Will go a way, or is it also just like could make

David
it short? A 100%. Yep. With a combination, we have to give you some you know, I’ll send you some some medicine to get rid of it because I’ve dealt with cancer quite a bit. Cancer is just your cells out of balance reproducing.

Kristin
Have you dealt with lymphedema? Do you know what that is?

David
Sure.

Kristin
Really?

David
Yeah. Of course. I’ve dealt with cancer sized baseballs. My brother had 50 tumors in them, and within 4 months, we had them all gone. It’s not it’s not the physical remedies.

It’s the energetic impact. And if you get off the path, if you would have stayed in that relationship, it would have ruined your life.

Kristin
Mhmm.

David
You would have ruined the purpose of your incarnation, which is why you got such a death defying illness. Yeah. Because the universe said, okay. If this is the choice, then you’re out. We make an agreement when we incarnate to spiritually advance.

And we make an agreement to learn these lessons based on these lifetimes we are bringing with us. And when we decide in this incarnation, I’m not gonna do any of that. I’m just gonna experience. We lose our right to be here. This is not a vacation land.

Kristin
Right.

David
Earth and planet Earth is not for hanging out. You come, you learn, you grow, and you leave. And when you stop learning and stop growing, you leave.

Kristin
Oh my gosh. Okay. I can’t believe it. It’s already time. Speaking of time, I lost track of time, and that was another thing.

It was because when I’m getting really absorbed in things, I do lose track of time.

David
You know, I used to do sessions, and I used to have to scream at people till stop at an hour. And it’s why I I can’t or I don’t see people anymore.

Kristin
Okay.

David
They would kill me. They would line up my door for 6 miles. But, please, Okay. So

Kristin
this is where being a host is hard because I have so many questions. Someone walks away from listening to this podcast. What are 2 things that you really want them to have heard? That will change their lives.

David
1 is this all of this consternation that we’re experiencing, all of the vision and the hate and the greed and all of what looks like the world is breaking apart. It’s a reshuffling of the deck, as you said. And that is so that We can expose all the negativity that exists. The only way you you can get rid of it is if you uncover it. Mhmm.

So don’t think that we’re being overwhelmed by the dark side. Don’t think that the negativity is going to take over and collapse and ruin everything. Impossible. The reason why it’s been exposed is so that we can finally eradicate it, and we can be in a positive vibration for the rest of the planet. So number 1, hang tight.

Next couple of years, Rocky Road, roller coaster. But afterwards, all worth it.

Kristin
Okay.

David
Number 1. And in that, stop paying attention to the nonsense. You read the news and these people and the and the just just stop it. You know it’s not real. You know it’s not truthful.

Walk away from it. But the second, all illness. Is from experiences. All illnesses are forcing us to accept a change that we don’t accept. So stop chasing Remi I mean, you can buy my medicine all you want, but stop chasing remedies.

Stop chasing the external fixes.

Kristin
Because then we’re bypassing.

David
The first fix has to come here. You have to recognize what your soul is asking you to change. If you agree to it, the illness will go away because then you’ll be led to the remedy that will get rid of it, but you’ll also change your path and get back to the reason why you incur it. Okay. So every illness is curable.

It’s just an acknowledgment of the change it’s pushing and asking us to do. That is where true healing happens.

Kristin
Okay. Okay. David, thank you. This was extraordinary, and mind betting, and so important. Thank you.

David
My pleasure. Thanks for having me.

Kristin
You’re very welcome.