Kristin Taylor
Zach Tavcar had a near death experience at the age of 14 I in the midst of treatment for leukemia where he encountered It deceased relative. His experience initiated him into asking further questions about life and death, the nature of suffering, why we suffer, and why we’re here. Years later, Zach began having more out of body experiences as well as unintended channelings that I can’t like to ask him out that further helped him understand his Made and revealed answers to those questions. So currently, Zach works as a health and wellness coach, Quantum Healing Hypnosis, QHHT practitioner, exercise physiologist, speaker and writer. As a result of his NDE and later experiences, Zach realized his life purpose and mission, which is to help others remember their deepest hearts, the deepest place within themselves, that aspect of them that is infinite divine oneness.

So wonderful to have you. Welcome, Zach.

Zach Tavcar
Thank you for having me, Chris. It’s a pleasure to be here.

Kristin Taylor
Well, let’s just dive right in. Okay. You are really young when you had your NDA.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah.

Kristin Taylor
Can you set the stage for what was going on in your life and how that happened?

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. So I was 14. I just turn well, maybe 14 Through months, but I had just been diagnosed with leukemia. I was at about 3 months after my treatment. And so I was kind of in the midst of a little chaos already.

And do you want me to go into the actual day, or do you want me to set some more stage for us?

Kristin Taylor
Let me ask you this. Yeah. Love It you paused me there because I do wanna know 1 thing, which is maybe not the most the remaining question given that you were so young, but did you or your family hold any strong spiritual religious beliefs?

Zach Tavcar
My dad’s mother, so my grandmother, my paternal grandma, she was quite involved, and she was a devout Catholic, but she was also very interested in intended seminars for, like, Tony Robbins and Deepak Chopra. So she was very interested in the the mystical, if you will. You know, the side of life and, you know, very self help oriented. She grew up in World War 2 in in Austria. So she was a young girl when World War 2 was going on.

So I think that kind of created her to have a lot of questions about life as well. And I she was she was deeply spiritual. My dad is spiritual. My mom’s very open and all those things. But never never anyone is as I would say my grandma at at that age.

Kristin Taylor
And did she have a big influence over you? And that might I, again, kinda strange because a 14 year old Made or may not have an impact on It?

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. We had she had a very big influence over me and just everyone in general, she was a wonderful person.

Kristin Taylor
You know,

Zach Tavcar
she was a wonderful Made, everyone had and everything. Nothing but nice things to say to her and about her. So she was very impactful in my life. And even as I got sick, that relationship strengthened even deeper. So

Kristin Taylor
Yeah. Okay. Thank you for that. So, yeah, just take us to that day.

Zach Tavcar
Okay. So that that morning, I had just gotten a blood draw, so It big blood draw. I had to get blood draws frequently. And I hadn’t eaten anything that morning, and I was on my way to get a back brace fitting because my l 2, l Through, and l or my lumbar vertebrae Made fractured from part of the treatment of leukemia with a pill called prednisone.

Kristin Taylor
Yeah.

Zach Tavcar
And so it did fractured. So I was on the way to get a back brace It. And we showed up there, and started getting the It. He starts taking, you know, my dimensions and all that. And as I was standing there, kind of on, like, a parallel bar, if you will, just Courtney myself up, I started to feel a little fuzzy, a little light headed.

And I was just thinking to myself, okay. Just, you know, Stay focused. Don’t pass out. Don’t do anything silly. So just kind of, you know, breathe through it.

And my dad and the technician had known each other from music, my dad’s musicians, so they were talking. And the whole I, I’m just kinda like, you know, keep my eyes open. Just alright. Let’s get through this. So it took about 20 to 30 minutes for him to get all his dimensions, go back It yada yada.

So by this time, I’m starting to get fuzzier and fuzzier and fuzzier and fuzzier, So we’re walking out. My dad is with my 4 year old brother at the time and just, you know, trailing behind saying goodbye the technician, and I just start kind of booking it speed walking to my dad’s truck. And I got to my dad’s truck, And by this time, the tunnel had just started to, you know, cave in and everything started to, you know, go black a little bit. And I sat on my dad’s the lip of his truck And he was about 40 meters away from me to my left, and he’s coming around Courtney, and I just looked at him and said, dad, I’m gonna pass, and then I went out. And the next thing I knew, I opened my eyes I I was in this tunnel that was like a beautiful, golden, silvery, white, you know, luminescent I, and it was just I always try to explain it as feeling like I was in liquid love because It felt like it was fluid almost like a moving fluid and it was moving around me and threw me as me.

So it was very impactful. And I just was kind of looking around while I was feeling this, this love, this joy, this peace, you know, this freedom and just kind of existed there for, I don’t know, however long. And then I looked forward and I saw a silhouette figure of a man wearing a trench coat. And the first, you know, thought that I had was, oh, that’s my grandpa Joe. My dad’s dad How had passed made his transition 7 years prior.

I was 7 years old, so I was 14 at the time. I the 7 years prior. And So I just looked at my own ass grandpa joke. And we had this inaudible conversation, and all I really remember him saying was you’re going to be okay. Everything’s going to be alright.

You just have to keep going. And I know there was more said, but at the I, I didn’t remember any of it. So we just had this inaudible conversation And then out of nowhere, I just felt like I got sucked out. And all of a sudden, I was in my body again, but my body was completely numb. And I couldn’t move, but I could hear my dad sing Zach.

Zach, are you okay? Zach. Zach, are you okay? And then another voice of a man saying, do you want me to call I? Do you want me to call 911?

Is he okay? And I couldn’t move my body, but I was I was able to speak I I said I can’t Made, but I’m okay. I just I can’t really move right now, but I’m okay and and just tingly. And so it took me about another minute or 2 for if what felt like my nervous system to come back online Yeah. Where the tingles come back through.

And then I woke up, and I saw my dad’s face and he was, you know, terrified. My 4 year old brother’s face How was extremely terrified, you know, thought his brother just died.

Kristin Taylor
Right. Right.

Zach Tavcar
I. And then this man that was just a bystander who had just run over and seen it happen. But luckily, unbeknownst to me, my dad had actually turned into Usain Bolt and sprinted 40 meters as I was falling and Made caught me. Wow. So that was pretty impressive.

I was, you know, I, oh, Made, you’re Superman too.

Kristin Taylor
Oh, dad.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. Good for you.

Kristin Taylor
Good for you.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. Yeah. Good for both of us. And then because maybe I would have had a dear a near death experience rather than had a body. Brands.

But, you know, then I we went to the the worst place in the world to eat McDonald’s right afterwards.

Kristin Taylor
And you said anything to get your blood sugar

Zach Tavcar
up? Exactly. And And then for I was concerned because my dad is quite a worry wart, and I wanted to explain that to him And I

Kristin Taylor
you’ve seen? What you’ve seen?

Zach Tavcar
What I what I experienced? Yeah. Mhmm. So I waited I don’t know. It always fuzzy, but I would say about a week to 2 weeks to tell him that.

And then I said, you know, I don’t wanna freak you out, but when I passed out, I was in a tunnel, and I saw a grandpa Joe. And immediately, you know, the concern is all over his face. What did he say? Did he say your you know, what’s going on? What’s gonna happen?

Blah blah blah. And I just said, no. He said everything’s gonna be okay. Everything would be good. I just would have to keep I just have to keep going.

I I just have to keep moving. And he was like, oh, okay. And so a few months later, he came to me, and I explained that I’d seen him in a trench coat, and I’d never seen my grandpa. You know, I’d only known him for 7 years, but I’d never seen him in a trench coat before because by that time How was wearing just I nice business suit, and business.

Kristin Taylor
Entire.

Zach Tavcar
Co yeah. Coats. Mhmm. And so he gave me this picture which I still have. And it was my grandpa when he was in his late twenties, early thirties It Prague where he was living, and he was in this long trench coat, and it looked Zach.

Like yeah. Right. Like, I had seen him. So that was confirmation to me that that I did have this conversation, you know, because at 14, you have this weird experience. You’re kinda trying to license.

I hallucinated. I did this. I did that. But, yeah, it was more confirmation for me that it sounds like a real experience. Yeah.

Kristin Taylor
Yeah. Validation would I also love about that, and then I wanna go back to that tunnel with your permission to

Zach Tavcar
Of course. Yeah.

Kristin Taylor
Because I know people are so curious as I am. But I hear so many people talk about NDEs, and they can go years even decades without telling anyone because particularly in times before when you were 14, People work used to being insane or it was, you know Yeah. Or just told that was a hallucination. It didn’t happen. But that you told your parents, and they believed you.

And they embraced the message, and they they honored you and the experience.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. Absolutely.

Kristin Taylor
Really beautiful.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. I I lucked out with 2 wonderful parents in life. Like, I scored big.

Kristin Taylor
You scored big time. So let’s go back into that tunnel because I have seen you, heard you, interviewed before, and you give some It, and I’ll share what I heard you say.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah.

Kristin Taylor
So I love that this sort of, like, golden love and this immersive experience that this gold and silvery and I. Like, you called It, like, almost like curtains or oil or, you know, you just I it was so fluid. Fluid is the word. It just wasn’t just around you, but it went through you.

Zach Tavcar
Mhmm.

Kristin Taylor
Right?

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. Absolutely.

Kristin Taylor
Did you feel like you were in a body? I know it was an out of body experience, but did were you, like, standing there, or was it just consciousness?

Zach Tavcar
I felt somewhat tangible. So I did feel as if I had form But it was weird because it wasn’t the density that we would know How. Like, when the wind hits us and we feel that on our skin

Kristin Taylor
Yeah.

Zach Tavcar
It was as if I had density, but it almost matched the density of what was there.

Kristin Taylor
The environment.

Zach Tavcar
The environment. So we were kind of and how I I and, you know, previous, I think it was with Sean Monokes. He he asked that same question and how It was funny that it came to me like that, but it was it was I 2 different densities of water or fluid. So oil and water. Mhmm.

And so it would I felt as if I was in a tunnel that was ever expanding, but the space that I felt like I was in, we could say was water. And then right outside was oil and that water could continually expand or vice versa. Could continually expand pushing the water or the oil outward or let it contain. So it was a fluid. That’s how it felt if I, you know, you’re trying to put words to it.

Kristin Taylor
I know.

Zach Tavcar
It’s steeper than that, but, you know.

Kristin Taylor
Words are very limited. How close did you and your grandfather get? I, could you touch him or was this telepathy? It was just you could see him in the distance as a shadowy figure, and that’s where he remained?

Zach Tavcar
It wasn’t super distant. Like, if I’m looking outside my window right now, I’m saying it was probably 10 meters away from me.

Kristin Taylor
Okay.

Zach Tavcar
So it wasn’t close enough to touch, and it wasn’t close enough to even in that moment perceive his features clearly. Courtney or maybe that’s just my mind not being able to remember that immersive experience. But I memory It, I would say, 10 meters away

Kristin Taylor
Okay.

Zach Tavcar
Which I don’t know why that was that way, but that’s that’s how it was.

Kristin Taylor
Well, I, I I would love to I obviously don’t know either, but where I go having listened to and read so many near to the experiences is that it clearly was not your time. So

Zach Tavcar
Mhmm.

Kristin Taylor
You sort of entered the space before we’re gonna call it heaven or the afterlife or whatever the moon clitures. So he was basically meeting you almost at the Made, but not opening the door for you to transition in. So it was, like, almost like keeping you at arm’s length because it just wasn’t your time.

Zach Tavcar
That I’ve never thought about that, Kristen, but I think you’re right. Yeah. Tristan. I think there’s something to that where it’s I not allowed to cross that barrier fully just yet.

Kristin Taylor
Yeah. So you saw the beginning of the route, but you didn’t cross over.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah.

Kristin Taylor
So I wanna hear I know you got stuff about meditation, more out of body, channeling, But before we go there, I’m also really curious about subsequent communication with Grandpa Joe. Was that a 1 and only or has it continued?

Zach Tavcar
1 and only for him.

Kristin Taylor
Got it.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. My grandma, on the other hand, that’s been different. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That’s been different.

Kristin Taylor
And is this the grandma you were referring to? Mhmm. Oh, I love it.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah.

Kristin Taylor
Oh I gosh. Okay. So you know those are the areas I wanted to hear about? Grandma, I wanna hear about the meditation out of body and channeling, so I’ll just hand it to you to share your story whenever order makes most sense.

Zach Tavcar
Oh I gosh. Kristen, that’s so much.

Kristin Taylor
Just your life.

Zach Tavcar
I guess I would say, let’s go let’s go through the I. So I began meditating at about daily at I. And the very first time that I meditated, I had read in Abraham Hicks book asking It this given, And in that book, 1 of, you know, the the main recommendation is to meditate daily. And I thought, well, I want to be healed and be done with all this treatment because at that I, I had I was still dealing with a thing called graft versus host disease, which is a it’s it’s pretty much an autoimmune disease that you get when you have some type of organ transplantation or a bone marrow transplant, which I had. Okay.

So I was Through years out bone marrow transplant, but I was still having these problems. So that just showed up. So I said, like, okay. They suggest meditation. I’m gonna meditate daily.

So the very first time I meditated, I sat in my parents lazy boy in their back Through. I put a timer on for 20 minutes on the oven timer and laid there and did what they suggested, which was to start focusing on your breath, and as you inhale, say 1, you know, mentally. And then exhale 1. Inhale 2. Exhale 2.

And whatever happens with the breath, just let it happen. Don’t fight it. Just observe it. And I was like, okay. I can do So I started doing It.

And within 5 minutes, I started getting very numb all over. Some of my fingers, and then it went up my forearms, elbows, shoulders, chest until at about 10 minutes. I could not feel much at all except for my Made. And all of a sudden, I started breathing very rapidly, naturally. Just, you know, I guess you could call it kundalini breathing or whatever.

Bread the I, but it just started happening just And then all of a sudden, I breathed out. And at this time, I can’t feel anything. Right? And I inhaled, and I became as big as my parents’ How, and I exhaled, and I took this big breath It. I I became the as big as the city of Reno.

Exhale. I became the whole earth. Exhale. Became our galaxy. Zach then as I continue to do this and kept expanding, eventually, I got to this point where I exhaled, and my breath normalized.

And I felt as if I was existing in the middle of the entire multiverse. And I could feel myself extending outwardly as everything And I, I felt like I was nothing. And I just It was it felt like I was looking into the stars. I was in the center of the galaxy. And then this very, very distant noise started deep beep beep.

And I was like, what in the heck is that? Where am I? And all of a sudden, I went, oh I god. That’s my parents’ timer. I’m still in my house.

And so just as I had come out, I started going back in the same way. And so the timer eventually stopped. My body was completely numb and I started to panic a little bit thinking, you know, you know, like am I am I what happened?

Kristin Taylor
Did I harm myself? Right. I get back.

Zach Tavcar
Right. And then my body just like I had when I passed out, started coming back I, the tingle started to come Zach, yadayadayada. And I had a little addiction to morphine in the It. And when I had that experience, I thought, holy crap. This is about a thousand I.

More powerful and more amazing feeling, morphine, I wanna keep doing this. And so

Kristin Taylor
You can Made into that lazy lazy boy recliner.

Zach Tavcar
Right. So that hooked me on meditation. And Zach, actually, the very next day, I did the exact same thing in my Through, but this time I was laying down instead of being on the lazy boy, like laying, you know, sitting I. And Made exact process happened. The breathing started.

I was numb. And at 1 point, It inhaled really big like that, and I heard this pop. And all of a sudden, I was in the corner of my room looking down to my body and just went, oh, and I zoomed I just popped right back into my body. And, again, It took me about 10 minutes to come back online with my nervous system. But yeah.

So those 2 were my very first meditative experiences It I. This is way intense. I need to keep doing this.

Kristin Taylor
Wow. Most people are like my mind was racing. Thing about what they did you do for work when I was gonna have to dinner. And so you just and this intuitive, I, the cundellini breathing, breath of fire, That’s fascinating. So I wanna hear Made, but what kind of impact did it or did it not have on your autoimmune disease.

Zach Tavcar
Oh, once I started meditating and once I started making particularly, you know, understanding the the, I don’t know, the mindset, the thought process that I was learning in these different self help and spiritual teachers, I I I pretty much immediately stopped having issues with the the graft versus How, and my body started to engraft a little bit better. It have flare ups here and there, but they weren’t as extensive. And who knows if that was, you know, the meditation or if that was just time was allowing my body to engraft. But around that time, it did start getting better. However, a few months afterwards, my my hip did collapse, which I just had a hip replaced in May as a result of that, but the hip bone did collapse because I had a flare up and had to go back on prednisone.

So there was there, you know, it wasn’t it wasn’t all rainbows and I. Like, it just helped me mentally. And it did allow my body to start engrafting until year and a half later, and I was completely off my meds and How I’m free of that.

Kristin Taylor
Okay. And so my assumption is that you probably still have a daily meditation practice?

Zach Tavcar
I do. Yes.

Kristin Taylor
Okay. And are you is each 1 as profound as those 2? No.

Zach Tavcar
Not even close.

Kristin Taylor
Okay.

Zach Tavcar
I have moments where there are times when I I have experiences I channeling my grandma out, you know, a year after she passed, and that happens frequently. It allows me to hear intuitively a lot better and know where I need to go. Mhmm. It allows me to hear my own inner voice a lot clearer, but it doesn’t I I rarely have those experiences How, maybe once every few months. Or I can really disconnect and let go and and just be in that space.

But you know, I’ll take a few times a year over. Yeah. Over an effort. Yeah.

Kristin Taylor
I’m curious to learn as you probably know, a lot of people who have NDEs, It, like, wakes up or triggers or activates this psychic intuitive mediumshipability. But what I hear over and over again is up until the age of 7. We are all psychic, did you have any experiences as a young boy?

Zach Tavcar
As a young boy, I always felt that people were something was watching Made.

Kristin Taylor
Yeah. I had that too.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. I. So you always feel like something’s watching you. But I I never had anything profound or transcendental. I no.

I just always I always could feel something watching me. I always felt I, I could understand people really well, but it wasn’t I I could hear. Like, I could that’s made me a good manipulator. I could just understand human behavior. I could see what I could hear what people were asking behind their words.

I could feel, you know,

Kristin Taylor
And Zach.

Zach Tavcar
Empathy. Empathy. Yeah. But empathy Courtney, my dad’s much more of an empath than I am. My parents are probably more empathic than I am, but I I can feel It, but if I feel it too much, it affects my body.

So I think I came in with a sensitive body.

Kristin Taylor
Yeah.

Zach Tavcar
And I know I came in with a more sensitive nervous system and sensitive body. I, that was my path

Kristin Taylor
to be

Zach Tavcar
more intuitive.

Kristin Taylor
Yeah.

Zach Tavcar
And so that was more of what mine was.

Kristin Taylor
Well, that’s so interesting that you say that you came in with a sensitive body because I feel like I did It, and I did come in as an empath and being able to sort of intuit what people are thinking and feeling beyond the words that they’re choosing. Mhmm. But when we first got started, I always ask people what I can do to make sure there’s comfort possible being interviewed, and you said wherever I go uncomfortable. And for me with a sensitive nervous system, that’s not always the case. Is that something through meditation that you’ve been able cultivate, or is that always even with a sensitive body something that you’ve been able to experience?

Zach Tavcar
I think that’s part of my I think that’s a 2 parts is probably part of my conditioning, my I mom’s side of her family is very much that way. And I the only reason I’m successful, I feel I, and anything that I do is because I’m good at mimicking. I’m very good at mimicking. So I was a good athlete because I could mimic the the best players. I I’m a good communicator because I can mimic what I, you know, hear people singing and and and I can like, obviously, can hear what they’re saying behind the words.

But as a young boy, I could see the really effective people that were making an impact on others. And then I just mimic them. So my mom is a great communicator. My my dad is a good communicator too, but he’s just more empathetic. He’s more empathetic for sure and he’s more emotion.

Channel. And then my mom’s brother, my favorite uncle, he was very much a people person I everywhere he went, people loved him, and he made everyone I. And How you know, and same with my mom and my dad too, and when he’s not in his overly emotional states. Yeah. Yeah.

But but so I would mimic that behavior. So I think it’s part mimicking, and I think it’s I chose those people because I need to use those tools later in life to share more and be a better messenger.

Kristin Taylor
Got it. Yeah. So they were modeling that and you were a good student. Mhmm. Okay.

Hopefully. Yeah. Obviously. Obviously. So Chandling grandma, year after she passes.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. It’s a channeling grandma. That was probably my 3rd or 4th channeling. I was just meditating, and I had a brief thought of How. And instantly, she popped right It, and she was 30 years old.

So I’d seen her when she when she died. I saw her It the funeral, and she was I, and she young, 30, and which is funny. But she was smiling and she was very sassy, and I always knew how sassy my grandma was. Mhmm. But she was, like, ex or Sassy, and I was like, How, I love it.

No wonder I’ve got so no wonder I’ve got a little spiced to Made. But she was so sassy and just smiling and, you know, exuding this love. And I saw her over our casket, and then when we went into the field to bury her, I saw her from probably about 50 yards away and all of a sudden there was I I swore there was 20 to 50 dragonflies just flying around I’m looking over at my wife and my brother and my mom. And I go, do you guys see these dragonflies? And everyone’s like, what are you talking And, like, there’s, like, 50 dragonflies just flying all over the place, and they go, like,

Kristin Taylor
oh, I don’t see it.

Zach Tavcar
No. I was that kind of freaked me out I I was tangibly seeing dragonflies.

Kristin Taylor
That is really creepy when you’re I, you don’t see that.

Zach Tavcar
How do you not see all these dragonflies? But but yeah. And then she zoomed in and was smiling and stuff. But over her casket, I was smiling. I wasn’t I, and my mom looks over at Made.

And this is my dad’s mom. And she goes, you can see grandma can’t you. I’m like, yeah. And she just started balling. But anyway, so that’s that was the first time I saw her.

Kristin Taylor
And was she floating?

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. She was floating.

Kristin Taylor
Okay.

Zach Tavcar
She’s Which was weird. Yeah. She’s floating over her casket just kinda, like, checking everything out. It’s very weird. But then It the field, when she zoomed in, she was, like, floating off the, I, hovering off the ground, I, right off the ground.

But anyway, so I’m meditating. My grandma comes in right after that, my favorite Uncle War just said, my mom’s brother, he had passed suddenly also from How had a blood clotting factor that I actually also Made have. And he came in at the same I, so I had my grandma on my right, my I don’t call I left. And my grandma says, I need you to tell your dad this, and I need you to tell him that he was the light of my life Mhmm. That he made.

Right? Yeah. He made and I feel bad saying that It my aunt receive this, but it is what it is.

Kristin Taylor
It is what it is. It’s not yours. It is.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. It is. It’s not my message. Yeah. And he she said, I need you to tell me or tell him that he was the light of my life, that he was the love of my life and that I’m so grateful that I got to be his mother and that I had him as a son.

And it was, like, so, like, I. Like, I was not gonna forget that. And then my uncle is my uncle Paul. So my grandma’s name is Olga. My uncle is Paul.

My uncle Paul said, I need you to tell your mom that She just needs to quiet How, and she can hear me. But she’s too noisy in her head. She’s too noisy in her own I, and that’s why she can’t hear what I’m trying to tell her. Because she would dream about How all the time and all these. And she’s she’s I I think my my mom, if she would just meditate, she would be deeply deeply, you know, I, channeling.

But It’s a it’s

Kristin Taylor
a choice. It it’s a choice, and it’s a discipline. Yeah.

Zach Tavcar
Sure. So that was so that was that.

Kristin Taylor
Okay. It not that because I have questions about that.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah.

Kristin Taylor
They’re all these different clairs. Right? There’s clairvoyance and there’s clair sentence. So you see them, you hear them, How how else do you experience them? It’s not just a disembodied voice, but is it sometimes so it’s never a disembodied voice.

They’re actually in front of you visually and they’re talking and you can hear them.

Zach Tavcar
In those experiences, yes. Sometimes I hear just I will hear so the first 2 times excuse me. The first time I channeled, it was it was completely a voice and a face.

Kristin Taylor
It not your voice.

Zach Tavcar
Mm-mm. No. It’s somebody else’s voice in my head. Yeah. It’s hard to just I I think when I say this I when I was a kid, I remember thinking, Made, these people are crazy, you know, who talk about this stuff.

And then when it happens to you’re like, it’s weird, and you don’t know how to articulate clearly because it is strange. But the way I feel the way I experience it is I first experience a deep profound emotion for whoever I’m writing to

Kristin Taylor
So you I when you’re doing It?

Zach Tavcar
I was right.

Kristin Taylor
Okay.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. I’ll write. And usually It I, I like, I’m just typing. I don’t tend to It I write

Kristin Taylor
Oh, so you’re on a keyboard?

Zach Tavcar
I’m on a keyboard.

Kristin Taylor
Okay.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. So the the very first time that happened, I was meditating, like, 2 or 3 times a day, and I dad’s a friend of my dad’s, her son had passed, transitioned. And she knew my story, and I was 22, Through. Was 23. And she asked if I had had any near death experiences or any profound experiences.

So I was like, yeah, let me write it back to How. And so I shared with her the experience I had with my dad or I grandpa, finished that. And as soon as I finished that, I had overwhelming love for this woman who I met 1 time in my life for 5 minutes, and gratitude for her And and I just heard, keep writing. So I’m not a fast typer. I’m pretty I’m maybe slow even.

I’m average. So I’m typing, and I swear to God in my hands were going 2 to Through times faster than I thought they ever could on the keyboard. And it was I these impulses and feeling and I was just And so I wrote it out and I reread it and I was like, I, that was weird. That was real trippy. So I sent it off to her.

She replied the next day and said, that was amazing. Can I share it with his friends and family? I said, of course, I don’t wanna creep you out or freak you out, but that second half of that message was your son like, talking to you. And she said, oh I god. I was gonna ask you if there was any way that possible because last week, I asked him to write me a letter telling me where he was and how he was doing.

Right? And I was like, Okay. This is getting weird. And I got the Hebe JVs because I never heard.

Kristin Taylor
Gave you Hebe JVs.

Zach Tavcar
Right. Oh, yeah. I was like, woof. That is freaky weird. I, I’m opening up something in myself that I don’t know if I’m really got comfortable doing.

Mhmm. Because it was weird, you know, like having somebody. But it was, you know, it was It. It was just it was weird that I could be a vessel for somebody to to give a letter. And I remember reading the letter, and the letter was, this place is so beautiful.

I am so grateful that you were my other. I cannot you can I cannot explain how much love and gratitude I have for you because of what you allowed me to I, the life you allowed me to live and how you support and just just like the long letter? And yeah. And then that happened again with a friend of mine once he Zach you know, he Made, like, accidentally well, I won’t say anything. But he he died and so his mom sent me a message.

The exact same thing happened to Made, but the difference with him was It sounded like he was a megaphone in my head. So the other 1 was I a quieter voice, but deep emotion. This 1 was deep emotion with a megaphone in my head. And I think it was just because him and I were very close friends in college, and we had more of a relationship. Yeah.

A relationship vibrational similarity in that regard so he could connect with me easier.

Kristin Taylor
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That cord was much more immediate.

Zach Tavcar
Right.

Kristin Taylor
Oh my gosh. That’s so fantastic. So I understand the How b g because you’re I, woah. I don’t remember like, this being off.

Zach Tavcar
I didn’t know I signed up for this.

Kristin Taylor
Menu. Yeah. Yeah. I think of it as a gift. Do you regard it as a gift?

And can you turn it on and off? Or what is your relationship to it?

Zach Tavcar
A 1000% I think it’s a gift. And it’s definitely a blessing. I will say though, I started to hear this. Once I started doing a lot more hypnosis sessions, When you’re doing the sessions as a facilitator, much like you, as a right, as a as a interviewer, you’re asking questions, you’re trying to put yourself into the situation with the individual. Trying to experience that with them so that you can ask appropriate questions as an observer.

And this after a, I don’t know, maybe a few months of doing it pretty regularly, 1 to 2 sessions a week, and they’re long sessions, they can last up to 3 hours. Of of just or maybe 2 hours under hypnosis. I started hearing this the this I don’t know. This voice calling themselves the council. And so I would ask a question, much like you would ask a question to yourself, you know, and you’d find your self fine, you know, getting an answer, mulling it over, getting an answer.

Mhmm. I was asking questions about my life for what to do, and I would just I, having a megaphone in my head, hearing a voice responding to me saying, do this, do that, do this, do that. And I have to be honest, and I asked the voice after 2 weeks of that happening that I need to turn it off because it was driving me a little Bad. And they said, okay, we’ll be here when you need us. And that was that.

But I will be honest and say, I kind of I’m disappointed with myself that I did that because now it’s trickier to turn it on. Not to turn it’s It trickier for me to turn the light switch on, not that they’re gone anywhere, but it’s I feel like you asked this question that people feel like when they have an NDE, there’s a switch that gets flipped. Right?

Kristin Taylor
Mhmm.

Zach Tavcar
Yes. That flip got switched from Made years ago, but we still have the opportunity to, like, a dimmer switch dim that I.

Kristin Taylor
Yeah.

Zach Tavcar
And I feel like It that moment, I really

Kristin Taylor
over.

Zach Tavcar
Timmed it all. Alright. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I should’ve just gone, How. Can you just give me a moment? You know, can you give me a few days rather than I feel like in that moment, I was like, I. Enough’s enough. And now it’s trickier I can, but it’s trickier for me now to to get into that space.

But when I do, it’s it’s just as it’s just as clear.

Kristin Taylor
Yeah. So I was actually I now, it’s serving double duty. I often interview a friend He has a friend now, Richard Martini, and he talks about what he coined the the flip I. And I’m looking at the book right now, divine counsels. Of the afterlife.

So do you know much about the councils?

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. I actually was just hypnotized in It July and got to see them and had 1 of the craziest experiences I thought. Like, that might that might be up there with the leaving my body and my parents house the first time it meditated.

Kristin Taylor
Okay. Yeah. Let’s stay there. So what I’ve learned, not just through him, but through so many people who’ve had NDEs and who are mediums and have a lot to say about the afterlife and why we’re here, and I want to ask your perspective on this as well, especially after that experience. Under hypnosis, but that we all have a divine counsel Mhmm.

That we make these agreements with, we come It to the earthly incarnation, to learn lessons have experiences that we signed up for, and they are there as our guides in different capacities. And what he would say is if you want to up that dimmer switch, just continue to ask them for help upping the dimmer switch. I, they’re right there. They’re listening, talk to them. How, unsolicited words of advice to someone who’s far more advanced than I.

Tell Made, what can you are you open to sharing about that hypnotic experience and your

Zach Tavcar
honor, sir. I open book.

Kristin Taylor
Let’s do it. Let’s do it. I’m all ears.

Zach Tavcar
Well, so the I I was reached out to I’d done 1 previously in 2020 towards the end of my I don’t know practitionership. Like, you have to do a certain amount of sessions to become a practitioner Right. Practice sessions. So It the end of when I finished that, I I wanted to try it myself. And so I had that, had a really profound experience.

It was good to help. But then this this past July, I was reached out to I practitioner in the area who needed more sessions to get a higher level. And she just wanted to connect. And so I said, okay. I’d love to do it.

So going to her place. And I had had some questions because I had some this past year since probably last I. So July 2020 2, I’ve had some autoimmune stuff, weird weird health stuff. On top of the hip replacement that I had this past year. So yeah.

I had right. And I’m like, okay. What am I doing? What am I not allowing my body where there’s this resistance.

Kristin Taylor
Mhmm. And

Zach Tavcar
so I wanted to ask some of those questions. And I was just curious about my just where I was going with my life. I felt like when I got this hip replacement, It sound pretty, but I felt like that was half time of my life. It was the half halfway Made, and my wife doesn’t wanna hear that. And Who knows?

Maybe it won’t be. But I felt like, okay. I’m halfway through. So where do I go with the second half of my life? And So in the hypnosis, you’re still awake.

You’re awake. You’re just in a very, you know, theta brain Made frequency. Much like we are until we’re 7 years old. Right? So we’re in that state until we’re 7.

The Asine said, show me the boy until he’s 7, and I’ll show you the man. Or give me the boy until he’s 7, and I’ll show you the man.

Kristin Taylor
Oh, wow.

Zach Tavcar
Because we’re in that theta frequency with our brain waves until 7.

Kristin Taylor
Oh, I never knew that.

Zach Tavcar
And so Of that. And so with hypnosis, the practices were trying to get into that theta frequency to access the thought the memories, the images, all the things from this life and past lives, and maybe future lives. But anyways, I get there. So we direct It. So I’m in that space, and you usually use this practice.

And so we have you on a cloud. And so the practitioner, she starts saying, okay, you’re coming off the cloud. And the first time I Made done this, I had fallen from this cloud like I was superhero. And, you know, felt so strong and had this interesting life many years ago and, you know, 100 years ago. But this I, instead of going down, I felt myself getting pulled up.

I thought that’s weird. So It kept going up, up, up, up, up, up. And she goes, okay. Are you? Are you where you’re supposed to be?

And I go, well, I I went up instead of How, but, yeah, I mean, this this I I was in a dark Through, like an auditorium circular Through, and I these on this circular balcony was these black shadow figures with, like, these upturned Courtney, yellowish I. And I didn’t feel scared at all, but I I explained it. I’m seeing these Zach figures with and she goes, okay. Who are they? And I go, I don’t know what it seems like a like a council meeting.

And So as you continue to talk about this, it becomes very clear in your I, and things show up. And it always happens with any sequence or situation that you’re in, any scene that I. As I kept talking about it, maybe 2 minutes. All of a sudden, the shadow figures turned into human form, right, to give my mind an understanding of what was happening.

Kristin Taylor
Right.

Zach Tavcar
And they all showed up and they looked like Greek Gods, if you will, in white tunics. And she said, okay. Well, what are the names that you’re hearing? And all of a sudden, these names just pop into my I, and it was Melchizedek, Yeshua, Sofia, Josiah, I, there was, like, 10 names.

Kristin Taylor
Wow.

Zach Tavcar
And I just I. I just rattle them off real fast. And I so I was like, okay. I don’t know who those are. And and then I kept looking around, and I looked to the right and there was yeshua aka Jesus and Archangel Michael standing right next to each other.

And I went, woah. And the amount of power that came out of archangel Michael was astonishing because you have Jesus as this figure of just in this embodiment of love. Yeah. It’s it’s a it’s a It just it’s, you know, it’s awe inspiring. But then to have that and then to have the epitome of what you would imagine as strength standing right next to It was it was crazy.

But anyway so I have when you get

Kristin Taylor
into the butt anyway.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. Yeah. I know. I don’t I just don’t know. When I verbalize it, I just sound like a crazy person in my head.

Like, does anyone else feel this way or am I just I I I know I do accept it, but I’m like, it sounds so I you know, I I have to be honest, when I saying these things, I just think I accept them fully in my heart and know that they are my experience, but know a person listening to this is gonna go, what in the world is this person talking about? And I wish on our show. Yeah. That’s true. The people listening to this You’re attracted to

Kristin Taylor
this show. Our totally wrong to these stories and having experiences themselves or want more experiences like this because they know there’s there’s truth to this.

Zach Tavcar
Absolutely. You’re so right. Yeah. I just think, oh, Made. I sound like I just keep thinking, like, my 13 year old self goes, oh god.

Yeah. You are such a crazy person. What happened? No. I?

Did you go? You were gonna be a professional athlete. How you’re yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Anyway Speaking. Yeah. Now you’re talking like yeah. Now you’re yeah. Who that what?

But so then It was funny that you so I went on that, and to answer the question of what I first Made, like, what was my life purpose. I I was now asking the questions outwardly and said, well, why am I here? She didn’t even have to do anything anyway. I said, why am I here? And and they said because you chose to be.

And so that happened, this little dialogue happened for about 3 to 5 minutes, and then I conscious mind went Mhmm. And they started speaking through me. And so then she could ask the questions to them directly. And they said, we’re gonna take over and let Zach conscious I Made a step to the side. He’s still gonna be in involved and think, you know, some of this stuff is weird, but we’re going to communicate to you now.

And that’s very calm, and that happens pretty much in every session that even I facilitate. And she goes, okay. Well, why is he there? And the council said because he chose to be. And she said, well, what It you know, can you explain that more to him?

And they said, we sent out a call for somebody that we needed to fulfill a specific purpose, and he was the first 1 to answer it. And in my conscious mind It that time, I started getting pretty emotional because I’m like, I always imagined myself having a bit more purpose, a bit more experience, having this experience that I’ve had these different experiences and the and the suffering that I’ve experienced causing more growth from my soul and to fulfill something deeper for humanity as a whole, really.

Kristin Taylor
You’re more profound.

Zach Tavcar
Right. I shouldn’t just be and I exercise physiologists. Right? And that’s

Kristin Taylor
because signed up.

Zach Tavcar
Right. It and so I thought in my head, I thought, I’m not I’m not good. What can I do? I’m not good enough for that. Yeah.

Kristin Taylor
And I

Zach Tavcar
started getting pretty emotional and started to cry. And they said, he feels emotional because he doesn’t feel worthy for this purpose. But we’re not forcing this upon him. He asked for this, and that kind of ties into what you were saying with your the the the friend of yours.

Kristin Taylor
Yeah.

Zach Tavcar
We didn’t come because somebody forced us to. Right. Everything we’re living is because we chose to Within reason, I, we have specific checkpoints in our life that are imperative that we hit and that we reach. And and people that we’re encountering But the rest of it is a result of who we are, right, that law of attraction.

Kristin Taylor
Mhmm.

Zach Tavcar
The vibrational alignment I wasn’t supposed to have road rage. It was because I was already in a space when I wasn’t feeling for better word positive. Yeah. I was I was in a lower vibrational space. Yeah.

I was in a lower

Kristin Taylor
emotional space. Yeah.

Zach Tavcar
I was in a lower emotional space Made. And as a result, I was getting situations that mimic that back to me.

Kristin Taylor
I think that is so true. I mean, I know that is so Through.

Zach Tavcar
I. It’s a and so but there are things like our our our our family. People we all agreed to we all chose to be together Yeah. Are Made deep loved ones, close friends. All of those people.

Those are people who we’ve all chosen. The other acquaintances, the other friends, those are just people that happened to be on the same vibrational wavelength as us. I’m 92.1. They’re 92.1, and here we come becoming friends. You know?

Kristin Taylor
Oh, I’ve never heard you explain like that. That’s what I call.

Zach Tavcar
It’s a radio tower that right now, you know, we’re a radio we’re a radio signal.

Kristin Taylor
Frequencies.

Zach Tavcar
That’s it. We’re I’m you’re a 100.1. I’m a 100.1. Kristen, now we’re friends, and we understand each other.

Kristin Taylor
Yeah.

Zach Tavcar
But 100.1 is never gonna understand 88.1. There’s gonna be too much dissonance. And so we’re always in this like space of oh, well, you should change and you should change. Yeah. I’m getting off on a tangent, but that Exactly.

Kristin Taylor
Important tangent, though.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah.

Kristin Taylor
That is such an important tangent. I think so many of us, interpersonally, and even globally, are at different frequencies tuned into different channels, and we’re trying to find a collective way through.

Zach Tavcar
Absolutely.

Kristin Taylor
And it’s incredibly challenging. So have you read much of Michael Newton’s work, the Newton It, or I between lives, You have to. Am I the first person who’s ever said this to?

Zach Tavcar
Yes.

Kristin Taylor
You have to.

Zach Tavcar
Okay.

Kristin Taylor
Like, don’t don’t go more than 2 days Okay. Without taking some action on this because Michael Newton

Zach Tavcar
Okay.

Kristin Taylor
Was a I or psychiatrist, 1 of those. And he was not spiritually I. It wasn’t into anything like that. He needed the Zach very much materialist, and someone came to him and said, hey, I know that you know some stuff about hypnosis. And I’m struggling with this, that, or the other.

And he said, okay. I’ll put you into a deep state and someone went kind of to your point went to their council. Mhmm. And it’s this idea of life between lives. It’s not the past life.

It’s before the past life. It’s the place where you make the decisions about the contracts so I. So I think he will really dig it.

Zach Tavcar
It sounds like David Weiss, many lies, many masters.

Kristin Taylor
It’s exactly the same. Yeah.

Zach Tavcar
Sounds like exactly like that.

Kristin Taylor
It’s exactly the same, but he created the Newton Institute. So you have a lot of practitioners who specifically are a hypnotherapist who take people into life between lives.

Zach Tavcar
Okay. That’s I think he him and I’m I’m sure I’m sure of It, but him and Dolores Cannon, who does the quantum healing hypnosis. I’m sure they were

Kristin Taylor
They were not

Zach Tavcar
cohorts. It, they weren’t cohorts.

Kristin Taylor
They they may have been contemporaries in in some ways, but they were not connected.

Zach Tavcar
Mhmm. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds like She

Kristin Taylor
doesn’t very different. She I mean, not very different. She has a very distinct, you know, in terms of

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. That’s what I practice here

Kristin Taylor
I love that. Yeah. I love that.

Zach Tavcar
I’ll have to look that up.

Kristin Taylor
Please do. The Newton Institute.

Zach Tavcar
Okay.

Kristin Taylor
Yeah. And the books are he’s got, like, 4 or 5 books. I could not it’s part of the reason I even have this podcast.

Zach Tavcar
Oh, cool.

Kristin Taylor
It’s that fascinating. It very much like what you were talking Yeah. Being able to channel the council and ask, what is this incarnation about?

Zach Tavcar
Mhmm.

Kristin Taylor
What were other incarnations? What is the purpose? So time is going by really quickly as it always does.

Zach Tavcar
Unfortunately. Unfortunately.

Kristin Taylor
Tell if you would and I know this is the biggest question in the world. It’s kind of like, okay. In the next 22 seconds, what is the meaning of life. Oh my gosh. No.

That is not the question. But because we do suffer here and there’s so much suffering happening, what have you learned through all that you have been experiencing that Made be perhaps meaningful for people to understand or embrace more.

Zach Tavcar
Yeah. Oh my gosh. Alright. Let’s consolidate this. Let’s It let’s channel the council.

Now I would say suffering is momentary. Right? So this will pass. Suffering is necessary to give rise to desire. So suffering to me has now become a guidepost to point me in the direction.

So feeling ill, pointing me towards understanding that my inner being that’s waiting for me, my future self is already waiting me in wellness. Poverty pointing me in direction towards abundance. Loneliness pointing me in the direction towards Togetherness, oneness, connectedness, partnership. So I would say that’s taught me that out of all that suffering, it was partly like the Buddha would say, it was caused by an attachment to who I was in that moment and a dislike for the experience. Right?

It’s just Yeah. I want to feel good. So when I’m sick, I’m suffering because I want to feel good. I I want to be with a partnership that suffering of loneliness, even though it’s giving me clarity on what I want in a partnership, I’m stuck looking at the loneliness instead of taking my attention to being together. What would it look like being with my beautiful partner, huddling, kissing, holding hands, talking.

You know, all those things. So I say suffering is is necessary in our reality to give rise It order to give us an understanding of what it is that we do want. And on a spiritual level, you know, this is all Abraham Hixie, but it’s confirmed Through all these hypnosis sessions and all my experiences. Every time I’ve experienced something negative, suffering, contrasting, my inner being has expanded. My future self has expanded to exactly what it is that I want.

And so now it’s my job to get into that free arrange with my inner being so that those things show up for Made. And that’s the Made. You know what? Like, life is a game because It we’re here for a split second. Yeah.

It’s I I just did a little Instagram because I did a puzzle. It took me 4 hours to do this puzzle. And 6 other people had already taken an hour a half to do the puzzle before Made. And it I I didn’t know how these pieces fit It, but I saw 1 corner How It here in 1 Courtney. And after 4 hours of work, I had this beautiful little puzzle.

And it took my wife and I 2 minutes to disassemble it. Yeah. Goodbye. So It made me it really made me think I this I understand the analogy. Life is a puzzle.

None of these pieces Made sense individually. But as you begin to put them together, it all makes sense, and that’s the game. Right? I have to trust that this piece is going to fit worth It that corner matches It, and then this piece is going to match. And I don’t have to find these pieces.

They’re gonna show up naturally.

Kristin Taylor
They’re gonna show up. Yeah.

Zach Tavcar
And it’s my it’s the it’s my game of my life to put it all together. And it doesn’t mean it’s a predestined puzzle. It means that some of those puzzles will show up to match the corners that you’re looking for.

Kristin Taylor
It a great metaphor. That’s a great metaphor. It it’s idea around duality, there needs to be contrast. The sadness helps us remember love.

Zach Tavcar
In this life, there has to be contrast. There can there cannot be that harmonious thing that we’re looking for, you can be love. You can be but even when you’re love and when you’re feeling grateful, and I I’ve been since Thanksgiving, I’ve been every morning, every day. Just thankful, thankful, thankful, and Made, I can feel myself lifting up. But guess what?

When I’m driving behind somebody, who’s supposed to be going 10 miles faster? Yeah.

Kristin Taylor
How far are you? No. What’s really going on? Isn’t it?

Zach Tavcar
Okay. And then I just left. But that’s the awareness. Right? That’s why we meditate to have that awareness go.

Oh, okay. This is and so then I go, alright. You’re showing me that I don’t that I don’t want to be behind. So I do what I do want is I’ll be it’d be so nice to drive behind people that we’re going to speed limit. It’d be so nice to hit green lights.

I don’t think I’ve hit a red light in, like, 2 weeks now. Wow. You know, but it’s that practice. It’s that game.

Kristin Taylor
Well, I’d love that you Made so specific and so pedestrian, because I think it is this idea that we all want, I think, those who are tuning in, to have a higher frequency, to contribute love consciousness. And then you, you know, you get in an argument with your partner or you’re behind someone who’s just the worst driver on the planet and you’re I, god. I’m kind of love conscious.

Zach Tavcar
And it’s not to do that. Right? It’s to experience fully the emotions that we’re having. Let that be our guide so that we can go, okay, I’m having this emotion, which means I’m disconnected from my inner being and my and my soul. Not disconnected.

I’m I’m in a dissonance state. I’m lower. My I inner being is here all the I, and now I’m here. So How do I work myself up? And that’s through gratitude.

That’s through awareness. That’s through the joy. That’s through

Kristin Taylor
just a passion. Generosity. Yes. Yes.

Zach Tavcar
That’s just a practice.

Kristin Taylor
It is a practice. I love that word. It is not a perfection. It is a practice. So 1 more thing before we go, have you ever seen?

I think they’re Buddhist monks. They do those beautifully ornate sand mandalas. The puzzle very much reminds me of that. And when it’s done, they just

Zach Tavcar
You’re the 3rd person that’s mentioned that. And I actually watched a Buddhist monk when I was in college, he Made. And I don’t think it’s happened since, but I remember watching him do the mandala, and then it just disappears. Yeah. There’s no That’s right.

That’s the non attachment Muteism. Yeah. Impermanence, non attachment. Mhmm. This body will change.

This experience will change. Mhmm. It’s just momentary. And if I accept the moment for what it is fully, understand my thoughts and my emotions in that moment, be here, be alive, and then go and then make the informed choice and you could still make the informed choice to be angry and pissed off and sad and depressed, or you can make the informed choice to work your way up back towards a more joyful place.

Kristin Taylor
Yep. That’s a perfect place to stop. I wanna thank you so much for spending your time with us and sharing your experience in your wisdom. It was phenomenal.

Zach Tavcar
Thank you. Very much for having me.