This week, my guest is Wendy Harrington. Wendy Harrington is a multifaceted individual who wears many hats. Author, mentor, speaker, and a loving mother of 3. Her journey through life took a profound turn in 2001 when she had a near death experience that ignited a deep exploration into the transformative power of our spiritual connection. Drawing from her own life altering experience Wendy has dedicated her life to understanding how this spiritual connection can positively impact our mental, physical and emotional well-being, ultimately leading to a more prosperous fulfilling and satisfying life.
Wendy’s quest for knowledge has taken her around the globe, where she studied various modalities for healing and personal transformation. Through her journey, Wendy has unearthed levels of peace and contentment previously unknown to her and now shares her wisdom with the rest of us. Thank you so much for being here, Wendy. I’m so excited to have you.
Thank you so much. It’s an absolute pleasure to be here.
Yes. So I would love to start with life before your NDE. Can you share a little bit about who you were, any spiritual or religious beliefs, and then we’ll we’ll dive right into that.
Yeah. So I prior to having my n d e, I wasn’t I wouldn’t have considered myself spiritual as a kid. I did go to a church of England school and and I went to church with school but, you know, never really was religious or anything. And kind of How this idea, you know, we’re born, we die, we’re dust That’s It. That there wasn’t anything else.
I had It as a career, I had 10 years in banking. And and what I would consider just a just a normal everyday life really and but there was always something in me I I felt like something was missing. I remember I remember actually at 9 years old looking around and thinking I, is this it? You know, is this life where you, you know, you get married, you have some kids you do a job, you know, you don’t even enjoy that much. And then when you retire, maybe you have a bit of fun.
It seemed like I just seemed like yeah. It seemed like surely that can’t be it. Surely that can’t be all there is to life.
Right. Right. So then set the stage Tell us what was going on prior to the Wendy, and I mean just like hours or months, whatever feels like the right timeline. And then please share your near death experience.
Okay. So I was happily Harrington, and I was expecting my 3rd child. And we were I was good. I was I was very happy after I was very happy in my relationship, and I was very happily preparing for this new baby to come And then when I was 32 weeks pregnant, we had been decorating actually. We’re at How.
We were decorating, nesting, and stuff. I was painting, and all of a sudden I just felt really sick. And I said to my husband, I’m just gonna go and, like, lie down a minute because I just I just feel quite sick. So I went to lie down and In that evening, I just had, you know, lots of kind of I just felt really I, I had some kind of stomach bug or something, and and a very sort of I didn’t really think it was contractions, but a kind of contracty stomach, but just really didn’t feel well at all. And went to the doctors the next day, and they sent me into the hospital just to they can give you a new inject an inject to bring on the baby’s lungs just in case she needed to be born.
And so I went into the hospital that gave me the first injection, and then things started to settle How, and they said, oh, you know, we’ll keep you in overnight just so we can give you the other injection in the morning. Which they which they did. And I felt so settled and quiet that I’d said to my husband, you know, in the morning, I said, oh, you got off to work. Like, as soon as they’re letting me I I’ll let you know. And but then the nurse came It, looked at the monitor, and did did that kind of tone Wendy you know something’s wrong.
You know, she said, I’ll be back in a minute. I was like, it’s
a little bit cheaper.
And, anyway, they came in and they said we need to deliver this baby the heart rate gone How. So I got whisked off for an emergency cesarean. And so my youngest daughter was born 8 weeks prematurely. She was fine, which was great. She got put into special care It, like, the baby unit, but was was absolutely absolutely fine.
And I never had a sort of a major operation. So I didn’t feel great, but initially I put it down to that. And then over the next few days, I just started to It. I had a lot of abdominal pain. Didn’t really know what was going on.
And then ended up about 5 days afterwards being moved to the intensive care unit for adults where I was diagnosed, I How the fleshy thin disease. So that had got into the womb and into that, you know, where the cesarean section had happened. And the flesh eating disease is special name is an I fasciitis, which literally means death of the tissue. And so the surgeons had to remove my womb ovaries in about 2 thirds of the flesh on my torso It an attempt to save my life. And then they put me into a medical into medical sedation for 10 days.
Now somewhere in that 10 days was where I have my near death experience. So The first thing was I was really aware that I was not my body because that aspect of myself that I’ve always been aware of. And and you know it. That part of you whether you’re 5, 15, I, but it’s almost the same, isn’t it? That same self that.
Mhmm. I was aware of that. And I wasn’t in my body, and I knew I wasn’t in my body. And I was like, aware when I’m not my body because I’m still aware of myself. And then I was just surrounded by this amazing light and there was this momentum into it and just the most Well, words will never do It justice, but this profound peace and bliss and love I just exquisite, squeezed piece and it felt so delightful.
I was quite happily going and I really wanted to go. I had no thought for this physical realm. And then all of a sudden there was a tug on my arm and I looked back and it was my I. And I tried to pull him because I really wanted to go and I wanted him to come with Made. And I could see forms ahead of Made, and I just heard telepathically, if you come, you must come on your own.
So I tried to pull him again because I really wanted to go, but he would not budge. And and then I heard the same thing. If you come, you must come on your own. And I didn’t wanna leave him and that momentum subsided and I came back into my body. And him and my mom were holding my hand virtually the whole time that I was medically sedated.
And I often thought, I wonder if they if they weren’t. I wonder if I would have gone. I don’t know.
Well, can I ask some questions here? I don’t wanna interrupt. Yeah. Yeah? Okay.
So the way I translate that in my mind, tell me if I’m I or wrong It that his higher consciousness, his soul was speaking to your soul and speaking to. Oh, that that’s where I go with it. And my assumption is he probably doesn’t necessarily have a memory of that.
But I definitely had a choice, and I that’s what It was really clear. It was my choice. I could go or not go that was up to me.
Right. And so but was it his soul speaking to you? So when you saw him standing there, tugging you back, what is your perception of what part of him showed up in that?
Oh, yeah. I see that’s a lovely question. Chris and I’ve never really thought about that. I’ve always thought it was the physical hands But I also now know that, you know, everything is energetic, isn’t it? I mean, there’s so much stuff that we just cannot have them at all.
And that we can there is there’s an incredible soul connection for us, and and they’re always How been, you know, I feel the sense of our union on a on a different level.
So yeah. And also, you know, reflecting on the unraveling and the things that I’ve discovered since, I mean, he It taught me so much and helped me learn so much that, yeah, there’s definitely something something bigger going on than than the knocking comprehending.
Yeah. It always feels like there’s something bigger going on It Through this lovely work that I get to do with the podcast. What I’ve come to understand from many wise people like yourself is that not all of our soul energy comes down to earth. There It still a percentage that exists in the astroplane, having the I, whatever it is. So that that’s why Wendy heard you talk about this really strong connection that I was wondering if that was part of him there, only part of him and if he remembered it.
Made than just the the physical hand. I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But your story, I don’t wanna But meaning It it,
it’s lovely. So, yeah, I love to expand my own mind and think about things in a different way that, you know, that I’ve not thought about them before.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you needed to make a choice. You chose to return to your body.
Bring us to that experience.
So when I I don’t know when that happened in that 10 days, but when I got brought around from the sedation, It was just It took a while actually to sink in the devastation of what happened to my to my body. And And that, you know, initially, I was quite confused. And I I remember, actually, I knew It had a baby. And I knew I knew whoever he was. It wasn’t.
I didn’t I did have some I couldn’t remember the words for things. I remember that too as well. I couldn’t like, I couldn’t remember the words for glasses. I wanted my glasses. I I glasses, and they were on the I, and I could see them on the I.
And I couldn’t remember what they were called. And so I was try and then I’d try and I couldn’t I couldn’t speak as well because I had oh, that’s right. This is funny, isn’t It? We got I actually couldn’t talk when I first came around because I had a tracheostomy. And but, also, I couldn’t remember the words for things.
And so I was trying to gesture, and that was tricky with the family. And then my mom had this idea. I don’t know what you know. It the UK, we have this it’s called the mega SketchUp, used to be cool. I, it’s you write off
It, and then but it’s just like
the writing off. I just don’t catch this. Yeah. We How ones where it was, like, easier than the twidly knobs of an extra sketch. It was like a pen Yeah.
And you could write Yeah.
Well, I have 1 downstairs. We use it. Like, the dog has been fed.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. So so my mom bought that in so I could I could write, but I would write these, like, very long long winded ways of trying to describe something because I couldn’t remember what it was.
And then also even when they’d guess I keep writing, like, into the corners of the thing. And sort of writing notes. So it was quite a bit of mental confusion. And then I guess as that cleared, it was gradually realizing what Made happened to my body and, you know, and what I was left to deal with and live with and I remember the first time seeing it because it was it was really I of dressed initially and they done They’ve done some grafting, so they took skin from my thighs to graft my, you know, my my torso. So the sides of my torso but I lost too much muscle and flesh on my stomach area that, yeah, my bowels at the surface and with lots of I, level there was lots of physicality to deal with.
So I was in intensive care for 6 weeks and then I had 6 weeks on the plastic surgery wards. So I had, you know, 3 months in hospital of them, you know, beginning to sort of patch up this body and put it back together. It order to see could I get upright. So I ended up the final operation they did was a piece of pigskin that they I mean, it’s incredible. And what they can do these days, I’m so grateful.
A piece of pigskin to seal my bowel in place and then they took a piece of my left thigh and and put that up over my stomach. So I have a, yeah, a large piece of my thigh on my on my stomach. So And that was devastating too because it was I I felt like I looked like a freak, and then I felt like I looked even more freaky. And I’d also had septicemia where they had restricted the blood flow to the vital organs. And so that had damaged my feet, and I’d lost toe tips and instep, and So there were these blackened toes and, you know, all all of the there were a lot of physical or physical mutilation, you know, to deal with, which was not easy, and I and I really I really struggled with it because I thought it was so ugly.
I can understand. I can understand here you are a young woman and to not recognize your body and to feel like it’s just been sort of I’m hearing the word in my head massacred, like, what just happened?
Oh I goodness. And so I’m also imagining you go to this ferry, and this is what I hear all the time. You go to this. There are no words blissful, profoundly blissful place. You don’t wanna I, and then you come back.
And you’re in a body that you’d no longer I, but I imagine you’re also in a lot of physical pain.
Yeah. There was thankfully on and off, it was it was some pain through procedures and things, but but they’re actually well, not too bad. Yeah. It horrible. I think it’s the right time for you now.
Okay. And become comfortable, again. I’m tolerable. Because of you know? And and, actually, It you know, the my my torso, that that was the least painful thing.
The most painful thing actually was my feet because where I’d they’d been so damaged by the septicemia, and, of course, you know, you have to get up and, you know, move around to be on your feet. So they took a long I. To to to get into a place where they were more comfortable as in, like, years years years. But Yeah. Yeah.
But I all I was always very grateful, Ashley, that there was an intense pain because that must be very hard to live with But, yeah, a lot of discomfort and uncomfortableness and adjustment.
So with this transition, you’re dealing with so much drama and recovery to try to restore your own relationship to your body, your mobility, your health, your pain management with your feet. Did you immediately remember your near death experience? Did It take time? Did you tell people to do not?
Yeah. That it was vivid, and and I did immediately remember It. And I I told my I mom and my sister and my husband about it. And because, actually, it’s always stayed with me. It was it was incredibly vivid, and it kinda still is.
It’s like it’s still there. And there was a point where I so after I’d come home from hospital, I had my first experience of automatic I. So I got I got woken in the early hours with a sentence in in my head. It was just on repeat. And so I got up in the Wendy, and I Through, I’ll write it down because it was so persistent.
And as I wrote it, then the next line came and the next line and the next I. And I wish I still had it. I sadly, I lost that piece of writing. And but a lot of it was sort of saying, you know, you as humans do this and you hurt yourselves. And you do this and you hurt yourself, and it was quite blunt to our egos, but it was also I, yeah, we do do that.
You’re like, you hold on to the past Wendy you’re just repeating it hurting yourself or you’re you refuse to forgive and you, you know, and when you hurt yourselves.
And it was but there was also a piece where it said, There’s love and fear and everything else in It, and it’s really important that you choose love in order to have a different experience. And as humans, you’re unwittingly choosing fear. So that we’re creating from those energies but we’re unwittingly choosing fear. And I’ve seen that in lots of places like love and fear and everything in It, and I really think that’s it. There is this love energy that we can access and live from, you know, wide open hearts and, you know, and then there is fear energy.
And the collectively were in this energetic soup together, and the stories just get passed on and then we end up repeating repeating things. But we always there’s always the opportunity to heal and become present to the moment and realize the love that you are and that it’s inside of us.
Yes. You are speaking my language. This is the most beautiful thing. It is so profoundly, profoundly Through, and this is the feels like someone to the crux of our suffering is that we are unwittingly to use your words continually Yeah.
Repeating the habit of connecting to fear, consciousness, whether we’re aware of it or not, then sometimes it can be both and everything in It. So you help me understand. Are you feeling like you’re you’re doing the automatic writing? Are you feeling connected? I, because of It your deck that that experience now sort of the veil between this current sentient life and our Made spiritual connection.
Are you feeling connected to guides or 1? Say person, 1 soul. Can you help me understand that relationship?
Yeah. I never knew. And I never really kind of questioned It, and that I was I was a freaked out is too strong a word. But I was I saw it as something else. Initially, I saw it as something else, you know, that there was something else and that was me.
And so still having this quite a, you know, a strong separation between them, really. The idea that there’s, you know, spirit and there’s me as a human. Receiving this information. And but those experiences continued. Actually, the whole thing How kind of continued.
And I also 1 of the things I did was I did a psychology degree. So I got drawn to eastern philosophy, I think, because my body had had such damage as well. And really as well, I, it’s like, I wouldn’t change a thing. Somebody said to me once, oh, if you knew what you knew now, George, and I said, I would not change a thing because everything it has taught me, you know, to to truly know love is such a beautiful thing. And to and also that for me, we don’t need to have a near death experience.
We can access it now.
That’s right. That’s why I’m so happy you’re here. That’s why I’m so happy when you are happy.
Yeah. And and I used to think as well. I used to think, oh, why didn’t I get, like, you know, this full information. I’ve watched other people with near death experiences, and they come back with some of the most phenomenal information, don’t they? Having met, you know, you know, well, even like, you know, Christ and you know Yeah.
These various things on phenomenal information
Yeah. I I
used to think, oh, I didn’t forget that. You know, I just got this sort of moment of of knowing love. And then actually this this deep human journey of of the healing of my suffering. And the psychological suffering. So not just the physicality, you know, that’s like 1 aspect, but the most the worst bit is the psychological suffering, isn’t it?
The the way we, you know, beat ourselves up and think we’re not worthy and hate ourselves. That’s what I what I came to see. It was like, God, I hated myself. There’s deep deep down place of that. And so so yeah.
Sorry. So to just backtrack a bit was I started to study It I and Shigong and the energy of the body, and I was I did a shihatzu. Which is Japanese massage therapy for those that don’t know it. It’s the same uses the same theory as acupuncture, but you use your hands. You don’t use needles.
So I was studying that and that was very much I helping the body to to to come back to to peace because there was a lot my body was so weak and uncomfortable. Yes. So that was amazing for that. And then I was also I also studied a psychology degree because I was just really fascinated about, well, who are we? Really and, like, you know, what possibilities are there.
And 1 of the theories in psychology is that the near death experience is just something that happens in the brain at that point in time. And I started to think, well, maybe it was, you know, I was on a cocktail of drugs and How knows, you know, was it really real even though it always seemed so real. And then I was doing a I Chi weekend retreat, and we’ve gone to this beautiful place. I live in Devon in the UK. And then we’ve got the Moorland, and there’s a a wonderful It collection of ancient Oaks, and they’re Courtney of stunted and twisted.
It’s beautiful place with these huge rocks with moss on them and just a beautiful beautiful place and it was an incredible summer’s day. It’s warm. And so we we we ate our lunch in I, and then we were asked to do an exercise with a tree. So I found a tree, and I closed my eyes, and put my hands out. And the exercise was just move your hands back and forth and just feel for, you know, for energy.
What did you feel? But all of a sudden, I just lost complete sense of my separate self again. I met that same love that I did in linear death experience, and the words were it were unconditional love. And I knew that everything came from it and everything returned to it. And then I kind of I Made back into my my body and my sense of being separate again.
But it was like, okay. This is real. This is not some imagined thing. This is definitely real.
Well, what comes up for Made, Wendy, when you say that, is it’s more real than this. Like the illusion of our hypnotic spell that makes us think that love isn’t real. That’s not real, but you popped into the memory that it really is all about Yeah.
Love. He said, what about love? And that is the only thing that is real, isn’t it, like you said? Yeah.
Yes. And yet I was listening to you had a video and I was saying to my husband, you have to watch this. This is so right on, so needed and I’m so glad that whomever is tuning in, that they can benefit from your wisdom. Because Wendy we’re in this really calm state, we’re having this conversation and we recognize and we have moments of remembering, yes, it is about love. That feels easy.
But in the moments Wendy we are navigating emotion and always asking people about this because this is the really tricky place Because when you’re angry, when you’re resentful, when you’re guilty, when you’re in grief, when you’re feeling self hatred, self loathing, or all these very heavy emotions. It’s like we fall right back down into the rabbit hole of forgetting. You have a practice. It has some steps to it to help people navigate that. So they don’t fall into that place of forgetting that it’s all about love.
Can you share that?
I do. I look if I share it with you, I’d love to share it. So this came through so I went to India to a place called the 1ness universe. And I was learning emotional processing. And so the so the first piece of this is that Courtney, we have the the we’re trying to make sense of the emotions, so we’re trying to put meaning with our thinking I, our conscious mind to why do I feel like I feel?
And when we do that, It it’s a bit like we’re soaking the I. You know? So if we’re angry and we’re trying to understand why, and we’re, oh, I’m angry because of this and that, and we’re we’re adding energy to it.
And so the the 4 steps I It so I created from that experience It called the observant effort. And so it’s 4 steps. So the first 1 is that you have to own It. And by that, I mean, you have to realize that the feeling sensation is arising in you. It is not to do with the outside.
And this is a huge shift in perception. What we’re talking about here is How do we find our way to the love that we are And and 1 of the things is we do it by realizing that the world works from the inside out, not the outside It. So we’re pulling our attention from the physical world and all the reasons that I think that I feel and knowing, ah, that’s not really the reason. And that there’s another way that I can experience myself. So step 1 is you have to own It.
So not what’s going on outside of you, but what’s going on inside of you. So your feelings and also your thoughts. Then step 2 is stop thinking. And I always say, like, don’t worry about that because I know that sounds impossible. I mean, it’s not really about stopping thinking.
It’s about realizing that the thinking, the conscious mind doesn’t have the real answers that you’re looking for when it comes to your awakening, when it comes to your return to love. It very good at making up meanings about what it perceives, but those will all be coming from your programming. So it’s this idea that things are coming from inside of us. So then step 3 is start feeling. So in order to stop thinking It simply actually a shift of attention that you move your attention from the thoughts into your physicality, into your body.
And to observe what am I feeling right How. But as energy, as raw energy sensation, and this is where we have to tease apart I am I feeling right now because of. So the reasons I’m giving it instead to just I, oh, there’s anger and that the anger itself is just the energy of anger. In order to do that part of what we need to do, obviously, stop judging things and making them wrong because
Cover them. So much
judgement, aren’t we? I, sort of 50% of emotions are okay, and 50% are not. Aren’t we? Like, we don’t want to feel you know, shame and guilt and anger and resentment and bitterness and hatred, etcetera. So It.
Is a practice to observe the energy. And the 4th step is breathe and observe. So that 4th step is where you’re you’re you’re becoming the witness to what’s arising. You’re observing there’s anger as an energy sensation
And, you know, dropping the judgment. So you can just be with the feeling of the sensation It. And then breathe with and just breathe. And when you just witness I things just dissipate, it’s it’s really incredible. It’s so simple, but it’s really quite something to learn to do it, you know, where you rerun that non resistance.
And that there’s nothing to fix, there’s nothing to get rid of, and there’s nothing to change. Because our return to love is actually much more of a letting go than it is becoming something else because ultimately, it is what we want.
I love that. It’s more of a letting go than it becoming something because returning to what we actually are.
This resonates so powerfully from me and the work that I do with people at the very similar. I mean, these are practices of mindfulness. And moving away from I Made, be careful of that, why is it happening and shift to what is happening? And the idea of sensation, showing up with curiosity. What is the sensation?
Yes. Low curiosity. Basically. Yes.
Yes. Where is it in your body? Yeah. Does it have a color? Does it have a texture, taste I really just getting curious about it?
When you work with clients, I’m sure and everyone’s different. Some people take to it right away. Some people, it’s really challenging. Where do you find people struggle? And how do you help them in that struggle with the steps?
Yeah. So So for Made, it’s I It really the energy. Like, I I I feel very deeply. And interestingly, it’s in my astrological chart. Somebody wants said, oh, you have the capacity.
She was reading my chart. She said, oh, you have the capacity to feel really deeply. Does that resonate? And It was interesting because it was the work I was doing.
was like, well, yes, it does. There was
a matter of fact. Yeah.
It was really and it was like, oh, How interesting that that’s that is yeah. I hold space because I feel as, you know, as empaths in it, we feel, you know so I feel what’s arising in the other person who holds space. And because I’m so comfortable with these things, is I inviting them to come into the same space. And I think the trickiest bit is to let go of the thought. I think we’re very identified with our thinking mind that it’s who we are.
And we’re also very identified with the physicality, aren’t we that this is the fact, this is what is real, these things that I’m observing Mhmm. Not realizing that we’re the ones that are creating and projecting these things. So it’s a combination of pieces of a puzzle, really. So for me, the the emotions is 1 piece of the puzzle. Learning to process emotion so that you can drop underneath and Mhmm.
That, you know, that there is wisdom. All of, you know, all of us have access to this divine wisdom. And when we can quiet the thinking mind enough to get underneath, then that wisdom can arise and we can hear it. And then there’s also pieces of, you know, forgiveness and understanding the ego, what it is, how it functions It order that we can just I I I will say so we can transcend It, not get rid of it, but most likely live in love of it and with it. Because there’s nothing to get rid of.
And if I can give us this gorgeous experience of being a human, doesn’t it?
So It is there for
understanding how it functions because it functions in fear, which is why we’re stuck in it because it is what we think we are, and it’s functioning. It functions from fear. That is just How it functions. It’s not wrong, and you can’t change it.
But it functions in judgment, for example, and that’s a fear based thing. So it functions in separation. And then there’s also a deep piece of the work I do where we I call it the ego inception. So that moment in this lifetime of where we we came into existence and we forgot we were love. And that that that moment in time that we make up a lot of meaning about ourselves, the world, and other people.
So it’s seeing that. So you can see, oh, that’s where my patterning and programming, you know, the the core Through of it where it’s coming from. And to I, How, I’m making up all this meaning. And if I’m in this infinite possibility universe, then I can make new meaning, which I love all the science now that’s coming, you know, for neuroplasticity and It so cool, isn’t It? That is not I.
We’re not stuck with personalities. We we’ve created them, and and we can bring change to them.
I, we can change the lens. We can change the lens and create new scripts, and there’s so much more possibility because so much of what I’m hearing you say is around this identification with the ego, not recognizing what it is that it’s fear based. Yes. And also this projection, if we’re per our conditioning, we’re just replaying the same script over and over again limiting possibility. And how empowering It, like, if we can shift the practice of how we are in relationship to our feelings, the limitlessness that that makes available.
So How are some of the people you work with? Like, what people are drawn to you and what are they hoping for It if there were themes.
Yeah. So I tend to work with entrepreneurial women who have a sense of a like a soul’s calling that there’s something that they want to do in the world to make change. It’s not just entrepreneur, and I do also work with women in corporate who feel like there’s more to come out of them and they know they’re holding themselves back. And also I it’s women who have been on a spiritual journey for a very long I, and they know there’s something I they’ve always been seeking it. So so and the it’s that we put all the pieces of the puzzle together to help them to really like, I call it awakened to create my program Mhmm.
So that they can awaken to their Through selves. And come into their creative power. And It, yeah, it’s just really amazing you know, where they so it’s that sense of, you know, what problems are they It? It’s negative self talk, doubt, you know, insecurity, fear, It is I the self I, you know, where they’re feeling like they’re really holding themselves back and they know that there’s more inside of them. And commonly, I see common threads and patterns, you know, there’s often visibility things.
I I I figured that, you know, the Actually, most of us who are here, you know, speaking truth and awakening It is I we will have been here many times before and we will have been punished for it. So not only is the this human lifetime holding us back It also the energy of persecution. So for Made, it’s it’s very much about and it clearing energy through making friends with It. That’s probably the best thing to say, you know, that we’re giving space for that energy to I. And we just we witness it so that it can be experienced and and then, like, the charge goes out of it.
Otherwise, I feel like we just I I think, you know, that we’re we’re sort of stuck under veils of fear, you know, veils of shame, veils of guilt. And those energies then knock out the reasoning I. I think, you know, the the reasoning mind is fantastic, you know, when it’s the servant, not the master. Yes. But it gets knocked out by by the emotions.
so when we can bring, you know, this emotional this emotional tolerance of emotion, we bring those to peace. And then there’s much more presence and much more love It a natural manner.
You and I just We have ever so slightly different words, but we’re working in the same realm. Yes. I love that. I love that. So back to your near death experience that it really, you know, wasn’t this elaborate experience of meeting Christ or meeting, you know, elders or counsel or going to different places, but it was so powerful because it was so essential.
Remembering we’re here to learn to love and then we are love. You mentioned this idea of persecution It past lives, and that’s part of what’s baked in for many of us in fear to be visible, to speak our truth. How else has your near death experience informed or shape what you believe or know about I we’re here, or what spirituality means?
A beautiful question.
So I think for the the
near death experience, it was just, I guess, that that that first taste of what love truly was And, you know, 1 of the ways it’s really shaped me is is in knowing what love truly is because I had always been looking for I of me. I was looking for that special person that would make me, you know, then I’d find them and I’d feel like I was enough. I was looking for love outside of me. And And that it took me a while to realize actually that it was inside of me because so there was the It experience that I that first glimpse of this this love that was not a love that when we speak of, you know, or what I had learned is when we speak of love as humans, you know, there’s so much condition to it often, and it’s a a a love of getting even, you know, if it’s I And again, it’s all It, and no 1 means to do it. I didn’t mean to do it.
I didn’t even realize how unworthy I felt. You know, but not lacking that separation inside, It you know, makes us we’re looking I. For the solution to it. And then as I said, my wonderful husband has taught me so many things. So we actually I can’t think how long it was when our daughter was about 4 years old, we separated.
And we’d kind of hit this point where I was really struggling to come to terms with my body. I thought it was really ugly. And I got into my head this idea that he didn’t like it, which was an absolute fabrication. And I ended up having an affair, and you know, that was very difficult for us anyway. We ended up we ended up splitting up, and we tried.
We are so kind of like very unionized. We missed each other so much. We trying to come back together, but we just couldn’t make it work. And, yeah, when our youngest was 4, we we we separated and and got divorced. And We had 8 years.
We were apart. And he had 2 long term relationships And I had 1 long term relationship, but then I had 4 years on my own, and it was the best thing that could have ever happened to me because I been in relationships since I was about 14.
And I’d always had a boyfriend or something and I’d gone from 1 to the next, you know, I’d get discontent with that 1 and then I’d someone else would pop up. I been that 1 off. They go off with that, which sounds awful, isn’t it? I think a lot of I have done that. Yeah.
Yeah. Looking very loving and thinking, you know, It be this 1. It’ll be this 1. Not really. I that the discontent was mine, you know, and it was
Anyway, there’s in that period that I was single for 4 years, I had a brief relationship with somebody and it didn’t work out. And and I I It the end had sort of said, oh, don’t worry. You know, it’s fine. Let’s just be friends. And I wasn’t that upset about it, but I was a little bit I there’s nobody love Made, you know, why does nobody want to to go out with me?
And I went to bed, and I just said to Courtney, I speak to it all the time. I just I, I said, It. Is it okay to I said, what is the SHIT? Well, It Oh, you can swear.
We are We swear friendly.
Oh, good. What is this shit? I It this shit? I so bored of it. And, you know, I, just show me what it is, and I went to sleep.
And in the morning, I got up. I got in my shower. And, oh, Kristen, I was just lotted with love I. And I was like, oh my I. It’s inside me.
I been love for this I. Inside my whole life to this point, and it’s inside. And so I think that for me was probably where that unionizing came of realizing that I am love. You know, it’s it’s in Made. And And and just yeah.
Really kind of starting to realize that, which was just just amazing. And so I think that, like, it’s in all of us. And when we are that love, then we become the overflowing cup of love, don’t we? And then we just have the most divine interactions with other beings and you know, we’re then embracing of all. We know we’re all connected.
And that yeah. Yeah. Just I I don’t understand why we fight each other on our for instance, It never made sense to me. I look at people, I think, we’ve got way more in common than we have, like, when it comes to the difference of a skin cut, I didn’t I get that, you know, psychologically, it’s what’s done for me, but it just makes no sense.
It makes no sense. I mean, we are a part of the human community,
isn’t it? Such beauty and difference.
Exactly. Exactly. I I love It so much. And the question that I have It coming up for me because I have had experiences like that, and I can open up that place. And I love how that’s so bridged with It you’re struggling to do that, let’s take a look at your emotions.
And instead of resisting them, really inviting that process that you described so well. I also know that I’ve worked with people who either don’t have a spiritual belief system. Right? Or they have a hard time connecting to love because of trauma. And so that, you know, if they’re lying in bed and saying, what is the shit?
What is the shit? They stay with It just shit. Like depression and all of those heavy emotions come It. How It someone is in I like I’m answering it as I’m sort of verbally processing. So what I was about to ask It if someone is going something difficult and they’re not feeling a connection to love.
Start with the emotion, and then How does 1 or what is your experience of continuing to cultivate a relationship with source the divine, whatever we call It.
Yeah. How, beautiful lovely question. So I think forgiveness, forgiveness for me is a really big piece of how we unravel ourselves. And that if you if you if you don’t have any sense of anything greater than yourself. I also think faith because that to me is is the I feel like that’s the root of all of our problems.
Not religion. I agree. But actually, just hold I of It is this pure. Unconditional love. It is the seed of all the religions.
And really, I think love is the heart of all these things, and it’s love, isn’t it? And and it and it’s is pure unconditional love. You know, loves us all completely. Yeah. So that when you, you know, aligning with that, to practice forgiveness because for Made, it’s like you can’t really do it from your your own ego self.
It’ll get you so far. I you start calling on something greater, it is that’s where it’s transformative.
right. And and that for Made, I was I always do like a light wrapping. So if you imagine whatever it is that you love to connect with, that symbolizes that pure unconditional love. And I’ll come back to you if you don’t have anything in a minute. That that there that you, you know, you you see that symbol, you see the light of that, you visualize in your mind’s eye, yourself, because often we have to forgive ourselves, don’t we ask yourself?
glad to support situations and just and wrap them in I to see them And to me, we’re we’re calling on something greater to help us there. If we don’t have a sense that there’s something greater and we’re we’re we’re caught in our own suffering, I think to to to start with the emotions, But that’s tricky as well. If if It they’re heavy and you’re in them yourself, then that can actually be a bit. So, I guess, support is 1 thing I’d say gets support from someone who can hold space for you. Yeah.
Because it’s also when we when we’re talking about trauma here, is It also looking at what is it that I think and believe. It and, you know, we know that our beliefs are creating our experience, aren’t we? So It if I’m It I you know, when then like him, you know, Buddha said that Harrington to resentment or holding on to anger, is I, you know, drinking a cup of poison and expecting the other person to to suffer or die from it.
So we’re it’s we have to realize and, again, that you have to be so gentle with this too. So the first thing I’d say is loving kindness. Loving kindness for the situation you’re It, loving kindness for your inner voice even if it’s really negative. It so that you can get curious enough to create some space. And when I work with my clients, so we work with the observer method for the emotions.
We always start with that. But then we also I bring the observer method to your thinking because your thinking is also not fact. That’s right. It’s just noise coming out of your patterning. Yes.
And so Wendy you can become the observer to that and just be with, then there’s quietness underneath that. But it’s difficult if you’re in a lot of suffering because because I think we’re we’re doing our best to avoid the feeling of space. Because it feels so big.
yeah. And so with absolute empathy and gentleness because It we’re really stuck in our trauma, that can be very difficult for us to bring it home to ourselves.
Yeah. Yeah. And you had I’m gonna just
because it feels like this was done to Made. You know, this this awful awful thing was was done to me. And so to that can be hard to say, how do I take ownership of that? You know, when we’re talking about, you know, abuse or rape or, you know, you know Yeah. Genocide I we to its extreme, and these awful things that happen here on the planet.
right. And I think for me there, it’s I, you you have to scale up You have to come to the extremes that we started with actually, that there is love and fear. And so the these these catastrophic and devastating experiences, they are the play out of fear energy. Mhmm. And it’s not personal.
And it’s not personal. So And
you, the transition is to love, and and each of us It our mission to return to love.
To return to love. So you had just mentioned, you said, you know, people are having a hard time thinking of something that they they can connect to I is something that you’re gonna wrap in light as that emblematic symbol to return you to love. Mhmm. If people don’t necessarily have a spiritual connection or they’re struggling with It. You said you had some thoughts on that?
Yeah. So I think that I think that It helpful for that? I think it’s presence. Yeah. You know, the the presence to the moment because I can understand, like I mean, because as well, I had such resistance.
To to something greater because I had a lot of resistance to religion because to me Yes. Resulted in a lot of deaths.
And so if it’s the idea of Christ or you know, like those those things. Because for so for me, I practice with with Christ with Jesus because I’m a student of the Courtney in miracles. And it came through through there. So I’m not religious. Mhmm.
But for me, just connecting with that energy has been incredibly profound. So So so I, I’ll show that I don’t know if this is helpful. So for Made, when I was at massive resistance to religion and and also, you know, the idea of of something else, you know, and or or how how do we access that? You know? Because obviously, religion is a It a way, isn’t it?
It gives you a way, it gives you things to do, and that’s how you’re collecting. And I didn’t like I didn’t have that. And so I and studying a course in miracles, I suddenly realized 1 day, oh, I, I’m reading it and I’m thinking about it. I I’m not really practicing because I really clocked at the practice is hanging out with Christ. And and so I I googled images of Jesus.
I found what I liked. I chucked to myself. I thought he probably looks nothing like that or looked nothing like that. And I Through, but I’ll give it a go because there’s nothing to lose. So you could try any symbol because if you’re really soft ring.
Like, there really is nothing to lose and potentially everything to gain. Yeah. So it’s almost like it’s worth going for it, isn’t it? And Yeah. So it could be, yeah, you know, Buddha I.
For me, there’s something incredible about the Christ Energy. But, you know, mother Mary, you know, maybe 1 of the archangels, find something that is a representation of that pure unconditional love. And then you know It to go. So in give it a go, you can also have to finish. I, the mind thinks in pictures.
So if you’re looking at an image that is love Yes. And you’re focusing on that, that’s what’s coming into the I. And then that’s you know, we we experience where our attention is. So for me, another thing I used to do, so I used to do the light wrapping practice, but I also just used to think about this picture in my mind as much as I could. If I wasn’t using my mental faculties for something, I would just think about this picture.
And every time it would make me feel so happy,
That’s that’s I. Well, I must ask. So I think what I what I hear you saying and what I do with this as well because this come up with with Made, many clients. All of those are are spiritual or religious deities. Right?
There are these iconic images that to some people feel very uncomfortable. So what I’ll ask them to do is if they like animals. If they receive unconditional love from their dog or their cat, Connect to that. If you have a memory where you felt love, like 1 of my favorite memories is when my son was really It. My brother is 1 of my favorite people.
They were on a hill, and I was down in a house looking through the window at them at the hill, and my brother had my son on his shoulders. And I thought, oh my god. I just love that. So holding that image. I have 1 client who puts on this silly hat because it makes her laugh.
And I’m like, you need to put on that silly hat and that connects you to joy, joy is love. You’re getting 1 step closer. So it’s like this. Crawl, walk, run, start with whatever creates the immediacy of something that is either love or close to love or is on the pathway to love because whatever brings a smile and fills your heart back It that sensation. What a wonderful starting place?
It’s a great place to start, isn’t it? And and to cultivate those feelings. And and then I think and then I I do think that it’s, you know, It is about actually committing to do the work and with the support that’s necessary to heal. Yes. Isn’t it to come to to actually because it is these deep beliefs that we have about ourselves, which are simply false, which are just missing ourselves.
Which are creating their suffering. Yeah. So this feels like a no real. I How thinking, feeling, and believing. Like, if you’re not able to examine that, you can really amplify your own suffering and get stuck.
I would love to hear How do people work with you, learn about you, where do they find you? Okay.
Great. Thank you. So I’m on social. I’m on Facebook and Instagram. People can find me on there and also have a YouTube channel with various videos on that they can they can find me on YouTube, Wendy Harrington.
And I do I have 2 books. So 1 is called process and prosper. Why it’s essential to stamp your feet and get angry and how it can save your life? And that was the first book I wrote when I learned about the emotional processing. So that actually has a 7 step process in it.
The 4 steps is a condensed version of that because when I began teaching It people, I’d say, have you done the processing of people? So I can’t remember the step So I, you know, moved it to 4 separate. But It just that’s just a very short book. It’s designed to be read in an hour and then practiced for I. Because it’s that it’s the Mhmm.
Yeah. It’s about just seeing ourselves as energy, getting getting out of the thinking I. I think coming back to your question about It you don’t have a sense of something greater. Just realize that it is your thinking which is bashing you and, you know, conscious and unconscious and and tests. And to get present to the moment.
I remember reading, I remember being very sad at 1 point, and reading Erika Tullis the power of 9.
I remember I
Made just been so sad for ages and I went to get a cup of tea I I Through, oh my god, I’m happy just because I was present. Yes. So I was just totally in the book. So, yeah, things like that are amazing. Yes.
And then the other book is called from Vegas to the Perley Gates. And that’s my memoir of actually being ill with the flesh eating disease and, you know, the experiences of, like, finding my way through that and you know, messing things up and but getting insight along the way to this journey of really discovering what is love really. And, yeah, that has that’s like a a multiple layered love story. So it’s like, you know, the love of my husband and I, the love of my daughter and I, you know, the love of me with myself and and my love with Courtney itself. So It, yeah, that’s sort of multiple layer that 1.
And then I also run I do a regular master class called self suppression to sole expression. And and on and on there, we’re looking at, you know, these pieces of the puzzle in order to find our freedom, you know, from where we’ve got ourselves in this self imposed lockdown. That’s what it always appears to be to me now.
That’s well said. That is well said. Mhmm. Well, this is so important. I just thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and your I, and it’s like this beacon of light for people to remember It is about love and you have created content and materials so that people are not alone, there is a pathway.
And nothing could be more important. Mhmm. Thank you so much.
Thank you. I feel very blessed and honored to to to do it. So yeah. Is it I I share a link, or I don’t know what you’ve
Yeah. Well, Courtney is gonna make sure all of the links, but say them all. Like, people might be in a place where they can write
things down. I’ll just give it I just give it once. So the website is Wendy dash oh, it’s wendyhyphenharington.com. Harrington then the master class is wendyhyphenharington.comforward/
Harrington. Okay. Forward slash song. Very good. Thank you for clarifying that.
Yeah. Have a good 1. That’d be great. Thank you.
You’re welcome. We yeah. We’re gonna promote, you know, out that we can to that people can find you easily because I’m sure people have been feeling the importance of this and how it resonates in their own life. So what a pleasure Really appreciate your time. Thank you.
Oh, and thank you so much. It’s been so lovely to share for you and with you, and it’s just gorgeous to connect with you, Kristen. We definitely very aligned.
Yes. Yeah. Definitely.
Really lovely. Thank you so much.